“Torna in Ucraina”: i rifugiati di guerra si lamentano di abusi in Polonia

Russia is spreading anti-ukrainian sentiment in Poland.

It doesn’t help that *some*(we all know who) politicians repeat that propaganda and talk bullshit about Ukrainians getting treated better than Poles by the government, that they receive higher welfare than Poles(they don’t), that they are given medical appointments before the Poles, etc.

They are famous for spreading fake news, which helps russia.
Spread “plandemy” and anti-vax propaganda.
Wanted to get Poland out of WHO.
Said bullshit about indians getting money from ZUS.
Talked and still talk about “ukrainisation of Poland” and “ukropol”.

Russia certainly fuels anti-ukrainian sentiments. But no one has done as much to destroy support for Ukraine in Poland as Ukrainian politicians. This trend started after anti Polish speech made by Zelensky in United Nations headquarters. Imagine that at the moment when another tons of military aid from Poland were crossing the Polish-Ukrainian border Zelensky at the UN was saying that Poland is preparing the stage for Russia.

Don’t know about Poland, but I’m getting sick of Russians and Ukrainians in Serbia. I get it you ran from war, at least you don’t have to act as you are in your own fucking country. Loud, antisocial, lookin at us like they are better or something – especially Russians

I’m getting annoyed by them when I see them. We had a lot migrants from Pakistan, nepal etc, but at least they are trying to be part of society, like working in fast food locals, driving city bus etc. There is a problem with them because of language, but that is another thing

This is why I’d rather kill myself than become a refugee. Better die than live under russian occupation, better die than exist as a scapegoat for European politicians and people who believe you came to their country to ruin their day, not because you were running for your life.

A question for anyone familiar with fimi/dis-mis-info operations.

Is any organisation/ngo looking into this? I mean the (likely) coordinated campaign against ukranian refugees in different countries?

I’d like to be involved in exposing this and I work in a similar field. You can dm me for info/questions.

lol while 1.5 million Poles live lavish in Western Europe and they receive double what they contribute to the EU. If you help people too much they start thinking they don’t need the help. Point in action

Stop with the propaganda already. Like everywhere, there are decent and pretty horrible people among ukrainians too. But people will be fed up with injustice and arrogance, and will remember the bad ones more than the good ones.

My own parents sheltered for example some people from the country in Hungary, through my sister who had quite some friends from Ukraine. These animals destroyed our flat, and started to threaten (!) my mother. I literally had to throw them out. They were also milking heavily the german wellfare system btw, as evidenced by some of their belongings.

After all this experience, would I claim that all of them are evil? No. But some of them *are*, and I’m going to triple check next time whom I’m helping. It’s called common sense.

I’m not alone with such experiences, and some people lose their temper sooner than I do…

Isn’t Poland notoriously anti immigration

I would imagine, that a lot of those people were living in Poland long before 2022. All of the people I know personally, who fled the country at 2022 returned around late 22 – early 23.
It’s usually quite hard to be a refugee. It’s expensive, hard to find a good job on the same level as you were. And it’s emotionally draining. Not because the local people are unwelcoming. Most of Europe were absolute darlings. Including Poles.

Every time something bad happens, you see a ton of accounts saying that culprit is Ukrainian. Especially on TikTok and Facebook. 90% of time it isn’t.

On the one side, yeah Ukrainians work, they assimilate, they don’t make a lot of problems. On the other hand they come here, and just want everything for free from day one, medical care that we pay for in taxes, social benefits, retirement after couple months of working (because of the agreement polish government has signed in the past with Ukrainian government, that’s super unfair for people that worked for 40 plus years for their retirement) u can clearly see the money they have steal from military support, they are buying apartments for milions with cash and they kinda ungrateful towards us, they don’t want to leave apartments that people shared them in the beginning of the war, they are first in the line for medical appointments, and we poles are threated sometimes like second class citizens, which is crazy because everything is funded from our taxes. So that’s that.

Pop-journalism that searches for drama to publish a headline. Ukrainians in Poland receive many benefits, including being able to use our taxpayer funded child money program that allows them to collect money per child. Are there people who don’t like them? OK, but if it were the majority then you’d see them being deported, which you don’t see and which nobody is really offering except some select political movements (e.g., Braun, but from my understanding, Braun only wants to cut benefits to them. I haven’t read his platform enough nor do I particularly care to in order to verify that though).

Yes that’s true, all my Ukrainian colleagues and buddies shake in their boots as I approach them .

Poland filled with far right nut jobs, always has been. Thank god there is some decent folks living there too. If not they’d be open with their racism

Fuck all those who are mean to my refugees

My 21-year-old cousin, from a pretty well-off family, moved to Poland three months ago because she couldn’t take the constant Russian shelling anymore. What’s crazy is that even though she already has a job and speaks Polish quite well, people often notice her accent — and that’s usually how they realize she’s Ukrainian. She’s already faced discrimination more than once because of that. I’ve been telling her to either come back or move somewhere more multicultural, like the U.S., Canada, or Australia.

Ukrainian living in the EU ( not in Poland though) it’s crazy to me how normalised this is in Ukr telegram chats or other social media, especially those who live in Central Europe. Ukr just accept that there will be some amount of bullying and discrimination and don’t complain, they feel like they have no rights, even though they are on a legit legal scheme, pay taxes and live full time in the country. They think that they have no rights but they do. At least this woman told the story of her daughter even though she did not feel safe enough to reveal her name? So generally she does not feel like she’s will be protected if the school finds out? I’d tell the name of the school, publish the chats, shamed them. The treatment her daughter got is atrocious and this has to have consequences.

[how to deal with psyops](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3AN2wY4qAM)

Remember the Ukrainians that beat up the polish guy because he didn’t say Slavs ukranii and said I’m polish I have allegiance to Ukraine?