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    Finlandia per criminalizzare la negazione dell’olocausto

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    8. oechedelesk on

      I’m Jewish. Had family in the holocaust, Fuck no this is a bad idea. Free speech no matter how dumb needs to be defended especially when criminalizing said speech only legitimizes the conspiracy theories related to the topic. Don’t do this

    9. Rittersepp on

      Some comments seem to confuse freedom of speech and freedom of consequence, I think in Finland they probably were thinking a lot about it and as it came to such a decision it is not bad in my opinion. Although my perspective as a German might be a bit different on this topic, I guess.

    10. Soft-Ingenuity2262 on

      Excellent news! Now let’s make politicians and public figures accountable for des-informing and miss-informing.

    11. GreenRhino39 on

      Fuck Holocaust deniers, but everyone should be allowed to deny anything they want to, doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong. This is a restriction of freedom of speech.

    12. thedudefrom1987 on

      Also, what about the denial of genocide in Gaza or are they not white enough for that?

    18. Virtual-Magician-898 on

      If people have stupid thoughts, it’s better that they speak those stupid thoughts so that others can correct them or they make fools of themselves, hopefully forcing some introspection.

      Making it illegal (as in the government and legal system is getting involved) to believe one thing or another is just a new level of fucked.

    19. MohaShah on

      Holocaust carried out by NeoNazi Israel against Palestinians is real too and the deniers should be tried and it should be a crime to deny it. It’s literally happening in front of our eyes.

      Reddit is full of Zionist demonic creatures, so I am sure many will attack me.

    21. FMSV0 on

      It’s just dumb. Anyone denying the holocaust is an idiot. Just like anyone denying other proven genocides are idiots. There’s nothing special about this genocide compared to others. There’s no reason for a special treatment for this specific case.

      What nazis did should never be forgotten, but others have done the same. No special treatment to other criminals.

    22. Lopsided-Rip-7115 on

      What will history call the genocide of the Palestinians?

    23. The-Eye-of_Ra on

      This is bad. Taking away freedom of speech is antidemocratic.

    26. premature_eulogy on

      For context: the current government was embroiled in several scandals over the Finns’ Party’s far right connections during the summer of 2023. Their [minister of economy had to resign](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66066910) and the leader of the party [was caught writing hateful content online](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66166795). The Prime Minister (of a different party, to clarify), held a “rules talk” with the Finns’ Party ministers and [decided, as a gesture of ‘zero tolerance for racism’, to move towards criminalizing Holocaust denial and displaying the swastika](https://yle.fi/a/74-20047962). This was in August 2023.

      After half a year of nothing coming to it, it was reported that the [Justice Minister had intentionally stalled the advancement of the law](https://www.savonsanomat.fi/uutissuomalainen/6717698) (she’s also a member of the Finns Party).

      Now, it’s worth noting that holocaust denial is already covered by the definition of the crime of “inciting against a group of people”, carrying a maximum penalty of two years in prison. This has been the case for ages. It just hasn’t been explicit, and the EU commission has previously criticized this.

      In the autumn of 2024, our government, preparing this new law specifically criminalizing the holocaust, [proposed *lowering* the maximum sentence from what it was under the other criminal code](https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/hs-hallitus-aikoo-lieventaa-rangaistuksia-holokaustin-kiistamisesta/9003814).

      Now it finally seems to be coming to fruition. But it’s worth keeping in mind that the right-wing Finns Party in the government dragged their feet every single step of the way to this point.

    27. PipingTheTobak on

      What this usually results in is young people who previously didn’t care wondering what they’re banning, looking into holocaust denial, and many more of them falling for it.

      Basic Streisand effect 

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