Perché i Tories ora temono l’estinzione entro due anni
‘It’s a sh*tshow’: Why Tories now fear extinction within two years
di Ecstatic_Ratio5997
Perché i Tories ora temono l’estinzione entro due anni
‘It’s a sh*tshow’: Why Tories now fear extinction within two years
di Ecstatic_Ratio5997
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> Why Tories now fear extinction within two years
Is it because after 14 years in power they made the country a worse place to live through incompetence, corruption, and malice? Didn’t even make a success of the things they are meant to be good at.
Maybe they could try ditching their leader?
Maybe don’t talk about bringing Boris back?
These people have gone totally mad – either is someone no one has heard of or their failed Prime Minister who resigned in disgrace.
People hate Lib Dem for Nick Clegg and held it against them for a decade, even now some do. People are going to hold a far longer grudge for the tories. They still have their connections but it can only take them so far, is it possible for them to make a new party with a new name?
They fucking deserve it too. What exactly do the Tories “conserve” ? I will never vote Tory ever again.
The greatest issue for the tories was that their traditional base are dying off. The younger generation who haven’t really got much to conserve aren’t flipping to tory as they age. That’s a big problem in itself, but not the greatest.
It now seems that the same voices that projected the tory message in the media and online have flipped to Reform. They are now totally irrelevant – even the first comments about Starmer’s EU deal I heard were from reform, not the official opposition.
I’ve said it before, but if you want a low level conspiracy to invest in you could do worse than believe that whatever force pushed the tory message in the past used Boris to create a massive wave of immigration to allow them to pitch Reform as the answer to the problem they created for themselves.
At this point it seems inevitable.
It’s quite clear to most that our political system isn’t working any longer, but no one actually knows what to do to either fix it or replace it.
But it means that Reform may well win the next General Election without even getting the majority of votes, or being the most popular party.
The idea of “Bojo gearing up for another crack” should tell you everything you need to know about where UK politics is going, and it isn’t great. In a system where the most important votes and changes happen on a local level, this push for American style popularity contests isn’t going to help us.
Failure on immigration Failure on picking a leader Failure on the economy with Liz truss. Now, it’s a failure to re organise the party. But I wouldn’t say they are facing extinction. They do need to find a new leader to re organise the party.
Boris killed them. He successfully removed anyone who dared speak up again him or brexit. That lack of checks and balances led to a party that became an echo chamber. It worked for a while but ultimately no one could replace him.
One of the conservatives main problems is they’ve got a black person in power when a large majority of their voter base is racist.
Channelled the cash to their pals whilst securing a nice post MP jobs for themselves. Fucked the county with Brexit, killed people by mishandling the pandemic and out toried by Reform. Dead ducks
I’m not sure what the Tories have to offer in the political market place with Reform and the LibDems pulling at their extremes. They have no big personalities, no big ideas, just 14 years of failure as a track record. They’re already irrelevant.
It’s funny because 2019 really was their sliding doors moment. The could have been the party of middle England and the working classes but they fucked it so hard no one will ever vote for them ever again.
Some sort of justice at least I guess for the way they treated everybody during 2020 and left the country in a right state.
here’s hoping we need mps that represent us not the very rich
Out of curiosity, is it ideologically impossible for a party to exist that is super tough on immigration but also against wealth inequality?
The reform cuckoo laid its eggs at CCHQ,
Consuming all the tory young.
One day they’re here, the next they’re gone,
morn not fools, they’ve just begun.
Hopefully Reform continue to split the tory vote where both fail to gain a majority
I’d take great pleasure in this were it not for the fact an even bigger shower of bastards look set to replace them.
It’s a bit like that lone bird left tweeting on its branch and it has no mates left.
Except I felt sorry for the bird.
There’s Badenoch up on her branch, chirruping about the UK-EU deal and no one is listening.
And when you lose control, you’ll reap the harvest you have sown.
I laugh when the Tories try to sell themselves as a patriotic party. If patriotism is the love of a country and its people, then the Tory governments of 2010 to 2024 were the least patriotic governments in history, given the damage they did to the UK, her people and her international standing.
Is it because they destroyed themselves trying to out UKIP Farage by calling for the referendum, and then have slipped into culture war bullshit, Trussing themselves, and now chasing Reform. Farage there, with a red rag, at the cliff edge, waving it and Badenoch full pelt for the edge.
Still waiting for Labour to introduce the new voting system, get us out of what is essentially a two party choice for leader. Though looking at the voting stats from last year, zero chance of that happening any time soon…
Unfortunately the super rich that own the Tories still need to continue to push the race card or someone might ask them to pay tax. Murdoch and Rothermere are still operating in the UK and controlling the narrative.
If they can manage it at all, they will continue pushing Right Wing politics. Ever more and more extreme. The death of the Tories will mean they will back even worse next time. Its is without question at this point that the UK public will do what Murdoch tells them.
Their problem is that by constantly harking back to a fantasy past that didn’t exist, their voters are now voting for a fantasy version of the Conservative Party they remember from the glory days.
Regressive, grievance politics has eaten them and they deserve it.
Good riddance.
I know Reform are *Tories 2.0: Now With Extra Racism!* but I kinda like how honest they are about it, makes it easier to point them out and say “hey, look, the bad guys”.
I genuinely think Labour are the only thing that can save the Tories now. If Labour do a shit job over the next 4 years the only place voters in England have left to go is reform, and reform will surge and threaten to win the next election. If Labour do a good job, they’ll comfortably win re-election, reform will lose momentum, and that will give the Tories time and a chance to recover.
I expected to be happy if this came to pass, maybe we would have Labour Vs something even more progressive… But no, it is Labour Vs the UK version of MAGA fascists… And turns out people in the UK are just as gullible as Americans and will vote MAGA fascist even after observing the incompetent mess that is about to plunge America into a disaster. Sigh.
Their only hope is for Reform to implode in the next couple of years. Which is entirely possible.
Ironically they wouldn’t be in such a bad place if they had kept the moderate elements of their party. Trying to retain the pro hardline immigration supporters has only emboldened Reform and contributed to their lessening popularity, and more moderate voters have been alienated.
[About BoJo]
> Still, he has an appeal to some voters which backers argue that few other politicians can match. “It’s only really Farage, and I suppose Trump, who can speak with a sense of optimism about the future,” a Tory insider said. “That’s what Kemi, Starmer and all the rest are missing. The one thing that, still, could really turn everything around is Boris coming back.”
How screwed are we as a species if “Tells convincing comforting lies” is really the key skillset?
I don’t understand people who care so little about truth and reality that they’d rather believe bullshit.
They have been facing extinction since Thatcher and I am sad to stay that they are not going under any time soon.