Tories being wiped out used to be a fantasy. However if reform are the replacement it might become a nightmare.
socratic-meth on
> The poll will pile pressure on Ms Badenoch as she tries to turn the party’s fortunes around
What exactly has she been trying?
LenzaRNG on
Welp. It’s been a fun couple of centuries.
Bye, bye, Tories.
Significant_Glove274 on
The entire point of the Conservative Party was to be sensible, pro-business and not overly reactive.
This current iteration has trashed its business reputation over Brexit for idealogical reasons, trashed its reputation for being sensible with it’s mad forays with Johnson and Truss, can never ‘out-Reform’ Reform on immigration etc anyway without losing its remaining liberal rump of voters and seems absolutely obsessed with what toilets people can use over things like the cost of living, housing and public services.
Consistency backing Johnson long after the general public clearly despised him has further ruined their reputation.
They are doomed – who is their voter these days?
BaBeBaBeBooby on
Can’t think of a good reason to vote Tory. Not much separates them from Labour. Labour on current form may also face oblivion.
misspixal4688 on
I mean many reasons why the Tories are done for but they don’t help themselves this woman is odd nothing about her is likable odd is the best description.
AlpsSad1364 on
Lucky for them there isn’t an election for at least 4 years so this is mostly pointless psephological navel gazing.
_JR28_ on
Between the circus that was the prior government and Badenoch’s absence of authoritative identity, I’m expecting the next decade for the Conservatives to be one to forget. Ditching Badenoch, at this point, would be like putting the car wipers on after crashing into a ditch.
HengeHopper on
Should make for an interesting party conference come October, attendance wise
TorontoCanada66 on
Well that’s what happens when you become a bunch of cunts
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
Badenoch has to go.
The smart people in the Tory party probably knew being the first leader in opposition was a poisoned chalice, not that Badenoch has helped herself by trying to ape Reform and complain about issues caused by her party’s time in government.
supersonic-bionic on
Well duh, that’s why Reform is first.
The Tories need to either change direction and move away from far right policies or just have everyone form the party move to Reform.
RoyaleWCheese_OK on
Thing is if Reform get in and start fixing things everyone else that’s done fuck all for the last 20 years is going to be in absolute shambles. The question is.. are Reform just a bunch of muppets and it’ll be absolute chaos or will they actually fix anything?
Sudden_Star_5130 on
Tories spent 14 years earning their wipeout, labour needs a wipeout also and an end the uniparty state.
mammothfossil on
Maybe trying to sound like Reform isn’t a winning strategy? Just a thought…
Striking_Smile6594 on
Depends on how you look at it.
A vaguely sensible centre right (pro business, pro economic stability, pro law and order) is is a good thing to have. If the Tories implode it doesn’t mean all right of centre thought has gone away, its just moved it’s support from the Conservatives to a bunch of loonies like Reform.
I think Badenoch has tried to complete with Farage on the Loony front and that’s a losing tactic and anyone who that it likely to appeal to has gone to Reform anyway.
To older Pro Business and one nation Tories (the ‘wets’ as they used to be called) have moved their support to either Lib Dems or Labour. They could potentially go Tory again, but not with someone like Badenoch in charge.
Don’t count to Tories out just yet, they where wildly unpopular in the late 90s and early 2000’s as well under a series of right wing leaders. When they brought in someone more palatable they started to get support back.
Elsior on
Good. They’ve had it coming. The last 14 years have shown what morally corrupt people they are.
Sadly, some will transfer to Reform who are even worse. But maybe, just maybe, more people will catch on quicker this time.
Cubiscus on
When is her 12 months up? Surely she’s gone then.
Luna259 on
This does put a smile on my face. Unless Reform is what’s replacing them
manu_ldn on
People cannot forget badly executed Brexit, lies in Brexit, Boris’s covid parties, blow up of fiscal rules during covid, covid contract sleaze, cost of living crisis, high taxes, failing nhs, trashed infrastructure, Liz truss’s collosal economy blowup, off the charts illegal and legal immigration, high inflation, loss of business investments — it is a bit of track! And they deserve to be wiped out.
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Tories being wiped out used to be a fantasy. However if reform are the replacement it might become a nightmare.
> The poll will pile pressure on Ms Badenoch as she tries to turn the party’s fortunes around
What exactly has she been trying?
Welp. It’s been a fun couple of centuries.
Bye, bye, Tories.
The entire point of the Conservative Party was to be sensible, pro-business and not overly reactive.
This current iteration has trashed its business reputation over Brexit for idealogical reasons, trashed its reputation for being sensible with it’s mad forays with Johnson and Truss, can never ‘out-Reform’ Reform on immigration etc anyway without losing its remaining liberal rump of voters and seems absolutely obsessed with what toilets people can use over things like the cost of living, housing and public services.
Consistency backing Johnson long after the general public clearly despised him has further ruined their reputation.
They are doomed – who is their voter these days?
Can’t think of a good reason to vote Tory. Not much separates them from Labour. Labour on current form may also face oblivion.
I mean many reasons why the Tories are done for but they don’t help themselves this woman is odd nothing about her is likable odd is the best description.
Lucky for them there isn’t an election for at least 4 years so this is mostly pointless psephological navel gazing.
Between the circus that was the prior government and Badenoch’s absence of authoritative identity, I’m expecting the next decade for the Conservatives to be one to forget. Ditching Badenoch, at this point, would be like putting the car wipers on after crashing into a ditch.
Should make for an interesting party conference come October, attendance wise
Well that’s what happens when you become a bunch of cunts
Badenoch has to go.
The smart people in the Tory party probably knew being the first leader in opposition was a poisoned chalice, not that Badenoch has helped herself by trying to ape Reform and complain about issues caused by her party’s time in government.
Well duh, that’s why Reform is first.
The Tories need to either change direction and move away from far right policies or just have everyone form the party move to Reform.
Thing is if Reform get in and start fixing things everyone else that’s done fuck all for the last 20 years is going to be in absolute shambles. The question is.. are Reform just a bunch of muppets and it’ll be absolute chaos or will they actually fix anything?
Tories spent 14 years earning their wipeout, labour needs a wipeout also and an end the uniparty state.
Maybe trying to sound like Reform isn’t a winning strategy? Just a thought…
Depends on how you look at it.
A vaguely sensible centre right (pro business, pro economic stability, pro law and order) is is a good thing to have. If the Tories implode it doesn’t mean all right of centre thought has gone away, its just moved it’s support from the Conservatives to a bunch of loonies like Reform.
I think Badenoch has tried to complete with Farage on the Loony front and that’s a losing tactic and anyone who that it likely to appeal to has gone to Reform anyway.
To older Pro Business and one nation Tories (the ‘wets’ as they used to be called) have moved their support to either Lib Dems or Labour. They could potentially go Tory again, but not with someone like Badenoch in charge.
Don’t count to Tories out just yet, they where wildly unpopular in the late 90s and early 2000’s as well under a series of right wing leaders. When they brought in someone more palatable they started to get support back.
Good. They’ve had it coming. The last 14 years have shown what morally corrupt people they are.
Sadly, some will transfer to Reform who are even worse. But maybe, just maybe, more people will catch on quicker this time.
When is her 12 months up? Surely she’s gone then.
This does put a smile on my face. Unless Reform is what’s replacing them
People cannot forget badly executed Brexit, lies in Brexit, Boris’s covid parties, blow up of fiscal rules during covid, covid contract sleaze, cost of living crisis, high taxes, failing nhs, trashed infrastructure, Liz truss’s collosal economy blowup, off the charts illegal and legal immigration, high inflation, loss of business investments — it is a bit of track! And they deserve to be wiped out.