Honestly…the real scandal here is that after re-offending he got an extremely mild sentence.
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I would just like to go on record to say that I don’t care what happens to him. I have genuine sympathy for people who are facing actual persecution through no fault of their own (while also having respect for the fact that we cannot possibly hope to harbour everybody in that situation), but this guy chose to abuse a child *twice* (that we know of) *while* being a guest here. It is entirely possible, in my view, to forfeit any right you may have had to protection, and I am not even convinced it is a right. More of a gift.
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> Ahmed, who is married with children and lives in Scotland, was convicted in 2008 of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl between 13 and 16 years of age and sentenced to a three-year probation order and 240 hours of community service.
> In November 2013 he was convicted of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl between 13 and 16 and sexually assaulting a teenager.
He was jailed for three years and six months and placed on the sex offenders register for an indefinite period.
Just probation order for the first crime and 3 years and 6 months for the second crime. God, justice system in this country is disgustingly bad.
And who gives a crap what happens to the Pedo in his home country? Oh yes, the “human rights” lawyers.
Apparently he lives with his family and kids now. Why would anyone want to live with this animal?
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Shit like this just feels disdain and disillusionment with the ECHR. Reform, or leave. Reform will do a lot worse than just leave if this continues (if they were to get into power, which is looking more likely as days go by)
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According to the article (with the usual disclaimers about how terrible UK legal reporting is), he didn’t actually win – in that the tribunal ruled he should stay. He won an appeal that will lead to a re-hearing. This is also not technically a human rights thing.
> Ahmed summoned an expert Pakistani witness to appear at his last asylum hearing in 2024, Asad Ali Khan, an advocate of the High Courts in Pakistan, who claimed the newspaper reports appeared to be legitimate.
> Ahmed lost the hearing in 2024 with the judge at the time dismissing what the expert had to say.
> However, the Upper Tribunal has ruled that the judge in 2024 made a mistake in law by failing to make a “sustainable” finding about the expert’s opinion.
If the reporting is accurate, the issue was that the first-tier tribunal didn’t properly consider the evidence, just dismissed it. So now the case has to go back to the first-tier tribunal for the tribunal to do its job properly this time.
This is another of those things where Theresa May screwed things up. In order to stop losing immigration cases, rather than re-hire all the lawyers she fired, she changed the law to stop the Upper Tribunals from considering any new evidence. So the Upper Tribunal cannot just consider the expert’s opinion and say “we’ve considered it, it doesn’t change anything” they have to send it back for a full re-hearing.
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Honestly…the real scandal here is that after re-offending he got an extremely mild sentence.
I would just like to go on record to say that I don’t care what happens to him. I have genuine sympathy for people who are facing actual persecution through no fault of their own (while also having respect for the fact that we cannot possibly hope to harbour everybody in that situation), but this guy chose to abuse a child *twice* (that we know of) *while* being a guest here. It is entirely possible, in my view, to forfeit any right you may have had to protection, and I am not even convinced it is a right. More of a gift.
> Ahmed, who is married with children and lives in Scotland, was convicted in 2008 of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl between 13 and 16 years of age and sentenced to a three-year probation order and 240 hours of community service.
> In November 2013 he was convicted of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl between 13 and 16 and sexually assaulting a teenager.
He was jailed for three years and six months and placed on the sex offenders register for an indefinite period.
Just probation order for the first crime and 3 years and 6 months for the second crime. God, justice system in this country is disgustingly bad.
And who gives a crap what happens to the Pedo in his home country? Oh yes, the “human rights” lawyers.
Apparently he lives with his family and kids now. Why would anyone want to live with this animal?
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Shit like this just feels disdain and disillusionment with the ECHR. Reform, or leave. Reform will do a lot worse than just leave if this continues (if they were to get into power, which is looking more likely as days go by)
According to the article (with the usual disclaimers about how terrible UK legal reporting is), he didn’t actually win – in that the tribunal ruled he should stay. He won an appeal that will lead to a re-hearing. This is also not technically a human rights thing.
> Ahmed summoned an expert Pakistani witness to appear at his last asylum hearing in 2024, Asad Ali Khan, an advocate of the High Courts in Pakistan, who claimed the newspaper reports appeared to be legitimate.
> Ahmed lost the hearing in 2024 with the judge at the time dismissing what the expert had to say.
> However, the Upper Tribunal has ruled that the judge in 2024 made a mistake in law by failing to make a “sustainable” finding about the expert’s opinion.
If the reporting is accurate, the issue was that the first-tier tribunal didn’t properly consider the evidence, just dismissed it. So now the case has to go back to the first-tier tribunal for the tribunal to do its job properly this time.
This is another of those things where Theresa May screwed things up. In order to stop losing immigration cases, rather than re-hire all the lawyers she fired, she changed the law to stop the Upper Tribunals from considering any new evidence. So the Upper Tribunal cannot just consider the expert’s opinion and say “we’ve considered it, it doesn’t change anything” they have to send it back for a full re-hearing.