Stalin was also a genocidal dictator – guess that’s what you get for white washing his reign of terror because it was inconvenient at the time.
JediBlight on
History just loves to repeat itself!
DuaLipaMePippa on
You’d have to be seriously mentally damaged to think that Stalin would allow free elections and democracy.
TomSki2 on
And of course he had no reasons to believe that it would happen. Lol.
Expensive-Soft5164 on
Never trust a Russian
hurryupnddwait on
This is factually.incorrect. Roosevelt passed away before the end of the war and Truman is the one that broke his promises with Stalin. Roosevelt and Stalin actually had a good relationship.
SnakesOnAScone on
How the fuck did Roosevelt have regrets when he died before they realised any of this?
NotOK1955 on
Lesson STILL not learned.
Trump is reliving the past, as per “ Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it”
wingsinvoid on
Noooo! Noo way, Stalin, who would have believed that.
Sounds like Trum is repeating the history all over again:
– Neville Chamberlain with Hitler,
– Roosevelt with Stalin.
And Trump was like: Me, me, me!
DifusDofus on
A lot of what author on this article says is just hindsight bias, FDR wasn’t naive or willfully ignorant.
FDR had to consider immense pressure of maintaining grand alliance to defeat Nazi Germany while avoiding a premature breakdown in cooperation.
Also FDR didn’t really have leverage over Stalin on control over the postwar settlement. Soviet Army was already occupying most of Eastern Europe by the time of the Yalta Conference. Churchill and FDR wanted to avoid war with USSR right after ww2.
Equalsmsi2 on
Didn’t Roosevelt die in 1945 ? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
atchijov on
Stalin start his “career” as a bank robber… Putin start his “political career” as wholesale drug dealer… both are criminals who end up at the top… never trust a criminal.
Stoyfan on
Its a pointless discussion because Stalin held all of the cards as he already had troops stationed in Eastern european countries or the red army was poised to take over those countries before the American and British army had a chance to reach them. Anyone who thinks that a country like Romania or Poland could have stayed in the Western sphere of influence despite their proximity to Russia, and the fact that they are surrounded by other countries under Russian influece, is delusional. S
Stalin was never going to move troops out of the countries his army occupied and the west had absolutely no way of forcing him to comply with their wishes.
The promises that Roosevelt managed to get out of Stalin ultimately were meaningless from the outset. I do- not understand why people put so much weight on the Yalta meeting.
Truman regretted that they didn‘t drop the 2nd bomb at Moscow, afaik.
Ventriloquist_Voice on
Yalta is a reason why Russian Hitler got away with genocides, concentration camps and annexations, and on the very next day immediately jumped pointing on Türkiye “I want their straits”
Gkalaitzas on
Did he tho? For example the only European civil war /revolution involving communists post Yalta was the Greek civil war and Stalin straight up pushed the Greek communists to disarm and participate in the parliamentary elections even with the cards stacked against them and the USSR gave no actual material and military help to the communist side once hostilities broke out. Actualy the communists even without USSR backing were well positioned to take power early on after ww2 ended and even middle of the road Soviet assistance and encouragement would have most likely led to a communist Greece, changing the entire balance of Europe and the region to their favor. But Stalin didnt do so and its accepted in historiography that adherence to the drawn spheres of influence (greece was to be within western and specifically english sphere) was a major reason . Sure that understanding broke out later in the cold war but its an example of a major instance where Stalin and the USSR upheld the sphere of influence agreements made in Yalta and eslewhere despite having a likely winning hand in a very important country.
im-cringing-rightnow on
You can’t trust ruzzians. Not a single one of them. They are brainwashed from the crib and people just invite them to their countries like it’s all fine and dandy. Go ahead and ask them this simple question – “Whose Crimea is?”. 98% of them will stumble HARD and start mumbling some bullshit about “well it was russian before soooooo…”.
Intellectual_Wafer on
Well, he declared war on Japan as was agreed on. So he didn’t break ALL promises…
time_travel_rabbit on
FDR passed away about 2 months after the yalta conference. President Truman was probably angry
Kashrul on
And here we go again with putler
Haunting_Switch3463 on
This is the president that put his own citizens in concentration camps, no?
SoupSpelunker on
Trump sees this and thinks, “wait, I thought Stalin was the *bad* guy?!?! He’s just like me and Vlad!”
got_light on
Oh look, ruzzke lied yet again.What a shocker!This had never been witnessed before I swear
A_Lazko on
The artist who painted the title picture to the article did amazing job portraying the difference between the facial expressions of Churchill and Roosevelt.
Roosevelt is unnaturally optimistic for the occasion and pink glasses would habe better characterized his state.
Churchill is definitely flabbergasted at what is going on.
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Stalin was also a genocidal dictator – guess that’s what you get for white washing his reign of terror because it was inconvenient at the time.
History just loves to repeat itself!
You’d have to be seriously mentally damaged to think that Stalin would allow free elections and democracy.
And of course he had no reasons to believe that it would happen. Lol.
Never trust a Russian
This is factually.incorrect. Roosevelt passed away before the end of the war and Truman is the one that broke his promises with Stalin. Roosevelt and Stalin actually had a good relationship.
How the fuck did Roosevelt have regrets when he died before they realised any of this?
Lesson STILL not learned.
Trump is reliving the past, as per “ Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it”
Noooo! Noo way, Stalin, who would have believed that.
Sounds like Trum is repeating the history all over again:
– Neville Chamberlain with Hitler,
– Roosevelt with Stalin.
And Trump was like: Me, me, me!
A lot of what author on this article says is just hindsight bias, FDR wasn’t naive or willfully ignorant.
FDR had to consider immense pressure of maintaining grand alliance to defeat Nazi Germany while avoiding a premature breakdown in cooperation.
Also FDR didn’t really have leverage over Stalin on control over the postwar settlement. Soviet Army was already occupying most of Eastern Europe by the time of the Yalta Conference. Churchill and FDR wanted to avoid war with USSR right after ww2.
Didn’t Roosevelt die in 1945 ? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Stalin start his “career” as a bank robber… Putin start his “political career” as wholesale drug dealer… both are criminals who end up at the top… never trust a criminal.
Its a pointless discussion because Stalin held all of the cards as he already had troops stationed in Eastern european countries or the red army was poised to take over those countries before the American and British army had a chance to reach them. Anyone who thinks that a country like Romania or Poland could have stayed in the Western sphere of influence despite their proximity to Russia, and the fact that they are surrounded by other countries under Russian influece, is delusional. S
Stalin was never going to move troops out of the countries his army occupied and the west had absolutely no way of forcing him to comply with their wishes.
The promises that Roosevelt managed to get out of Stalin ultimately were meaningless from the outset. I do- not understand why people put so much weight on the Yalta meeting.
The background of the institution publishing this is relevant; it’s a (non-Trumpist) conservative think tank: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Institution .
Truman regretted that they didn‘t drop the 2nd bomb at Moscow, afaik.
Yalta is a reason why Russian Hitler got away with genocides, concentration camps and annexations, and on the very next day immediately jumped pointing on Türkiye “I want their straits”
Did he tho? For example the only European civil war /revolution involving communists post Yalta was the Greek civil war and Stalin straight up pushed the Greek communists to disarm and participate in the parliamentary elections even with the cards stacked against them and the USSR gave no actual material and military help to the communist side once hostilities broke out. Actualy the communists even without USSR backing were well positioned to take power early on after ww2 ended and even middle of the road Soviet assistance and encouragement would have most likely led to a communist Greece, changing the entire balance of Europe and the region to their favor. But Stalin didnt do so and its accepted in historiography that adherence to the drawn spheres of influence (greece was to be within western and specifically english sphere) was a major reason . Sure that understanding broke out later in the cold war but its an example of a major instance where Stalin and the USSR upheld the sphere of influence agreements made in Yalta and eslewhere despite having a likely winning hand in a very important country.
You can’t trust ruzzians. Not a single one of them. They are brainwashed from the crib and people just invite them to their countries like it’s all fine and dandy. Go ahead and ask them this simple question – “Whose Crimea is?”. 98% of them will stumble HARD and start mumbling some bullshit about “well it was russian before soooooo…”.
Well, he declared war on Japan as was agreed on. So he didn’t break ALL promises…
FDR passed away about 2 months after the yalta conference. President Truman was probably angry
And here we go again with putler
This is the president that put his own citizens in concentration camps, no?
Trump sees this and thinks, “wait, I thought Stalin was the *bad* guy?!?! He’s just like me and Vlad!”
Oh look, ruzzke lied yet again.What a shocker!This had never been witnessed before I swear
The artist who painted the title picture to the article did amazing job portraying the difference between the facial expressions of Churchill and Roosevelt.
Roosevelt is unnaturally optimistic for the occasion and pink glasses would habe better characterized his state.
Churchill is definitely flabbergasted at what is going on.