Quote: Without the votes of Romania’s ethnic Hungarians and Moldovans with dual Moldovan–Romanian citizenship, Nicusor Dan might not have been elected president of Romania — an important outcome for both Romania and Europe.
Significant_Many_454 on
Not really around 100k Moldovans voted pro ND and between 300k-400k Hungarian ethnic. The difference between candidates was over 800k.
Adreszek on
Seriously Simion advocated abolishing/restricting democracy? Is that why he lost?
LucianFromWilno on
Hungarians & Cities vs Romanians
DramaticSimple4315 on
Unfortunately this outcome, although relieving, opens the door for an even bigger turn towards ethnic nationalism for the romanians neofascists. For all the shouting about the brussels boogeyman, they will try and associate it with the treasonous hungarian.
wolhol on
Meanwhile Austrian and German voters 🤐
whateverB29 on
Not really but ok…
thePAXWAX on
Loads of comments are making all kind of calculations but the reality is that without the votes of the Hungarians living in Romania and the Romanians from Moldova the presidential elections would not had the same legitimacy.
Without them the difference between the 2 candidates would have been less than 200K votes while with them we had a difference of 830k votes, which is making a joke any fraud accusations.
Sea_Helicopter_2556 on
Translation: Romanians saved Romania. Yes, we are a diverse country and have more minorities than just Roma/Indians.
SubjectNegotiation88 on
The only argument that can be made mathemaicaly….is that Bucharest saved Romania.
Hermanstrike on
Ethnic vote is the complete opposite of how democracy are supposed to work, what a joke
ex_user on
Not again… This is misleading.
Every vote counted and yes, the ethnic Hungarian vote did contribute to Nicusor Dan’s victory, but it wasn’t the decisive vote.
Nicusor Dan received 6,168,642 votes, accounting for 53.6% of the total valid votes. Dan’s margin of victory over George Simion was over 829,000 votes, he won with broad support from across the Romanian electorate.
Harghita and Covasna combined account for approximately 3% of his national vote total. Even assuming a near-unanimous swing from UDMR voters to Dan, it wouldn’t close an 800k+ gap.
justGuy007 on
Why this focus on ethnicity? They are all romanian citizens…. so Romanians saved romanian democracy.
Gon_Egg on
>The reason for this is that Dan’s opponent, George Simion, is in favor of the reunification of Moldova and Romania and the creation of a “Greater Romania” — an idea that is not very popular in Moldova.
The reason Moldovans didn’t vote for George Simion is not because he declares himself a “unionist”. It’s because he is a hypocrite. You can’t be a unionist and at the same time insult Moldovans by telling them they don’t deserve their Romanian citizenship. There is also a lot of proof that he is just a Russian asset who has the role of creating tensions between Romanians from Romania and Moldova. Many Moldovans who vote in Romanian elections are actually in favor of a union. They just want a better politician to represent this idea.
its_aom on
Like the Quebec people in Canada. Like the Catalans and Basques in Spain
Savings_Draw_6561 on
Hypocrisy really Europe is becoming a dictatorship
Sad_Secure on
Really glad to see Moldovan Hungarians stepping up like this. Shows that when democracy is on the line ethnic divisions matter way less than shared values and keeping extremists out of power
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Quote: Without the votes of Romania’s ethnic Hungarians and Moldovans with dual Moldovan–Romanian citizenship, Nicusor Dan might not have been elected president of Romania — an important outcome for both Romania and Europe.
Not really around 100k Moldovans voted pro ND and between 300k-400k Hungarian ethnic. The difference between candidates was over 800k.
Seriously Simion advocated abolishing/restricting democracy? Is that why he lost?
Hungarians & Cities vs Romanians
Unfortunately this outcome, although relieving, opens the door for an even bigger turn towards ethnic nationalism for the romanians neofascists. For all the shouting about the brussels boogeyman, they will try and associate it with the treasonous hungarian.
Meanwhile Austrian and German voters 🤐
Not really but ok…
Loads of comments are making all kind of calculations but the reality is that without the votes of the Hungarians living in Romania and the Romanians from Moldova the presidential elections would not had the same legitimacy.
Without them the difference between the 2 candidates would have been less than 200K votes while with them we had a difference of 830k votes, which is making a joke any fraud accusations.
Translation: Romanians saved Romania. Yes, we are a diverse country and have more minorities than just Roma/Indians.
The only argument that can be made mathemaicaly….is that Bucharest saved Romania.
Ethnic vote is the complete opposite of how democracy are supposed to work, what a joke
Not again… This is misleading.
Every vote counted and yes, the ethnic Hungarian vote did contribute to Nicusor Dan’s victory, but it wasn’t the decisive vote.
Nicusor Dan received 6,168,642 votes, accounting for 53.6% of the total valid votes. Dan’s margin of victory over George Simion was over 829,000 votes, he won with broad support from across the Romanian electorate.
Harghita and Covasna combined account for approximately 3% of his national vote total. Even assuming a near-unanimous swing from UDMR voters to Dan, it wouldn’t close an 800k+ gap.
Why this focus on ethnicity? They are all romanian citizens…. so Romanians saved romanian democracy.
>The reason for this is that Dan’s opponent, George Simion, is in favor of the reunification of Moldova and Romania and the creation of a “Greater Romania” — an idea that is not very popular in Moldova.
The reason Moldovans didn’t vote for George Simion is not because he declares himself a “unionist”. It’s because he is a hypocrite. You can’t be a unionist and at the same time insult Moldovans by telling them they don’t deserve their Romanian citizenship. There is also a lot of proof that he is just a Russian asset who has the role of creating tensions between Romanians from Romania and Moldova. Many Moldovans who vote in Romanian elections are actually in favor of a union. They just want a better politician to represent this idea.
Like the Quebec people in Canada. Like the Catalans and Basques in Spain
Hypocrisy really Europe is becoming a dictatorship
Really glad to see Moldovan Hungarians stepping up like this. Shows that when democracy is on the line ethnic divisions matter way less than shared values and keeping extremists out of power