What is the BBC thinking with these articles, then? Driving lessons are expensive, yes, we get that, so here’s a bunch of people complaining that they can’t afford more than £80 or £90 a month but expect to be tootling around in cars as new drivers?
Absolutely, get a driving licence, it’s a skill and it’s worth having, but this article is trying to make out that the only barrier to automotive joy is the cost of driving lessons…
dazekid06 on
Anyone who needs a license, get it fast. I think in the next 5 years it will be pretty much closed off for new drivers outside of those who are really well off.
BusyBeeBridgette on
Driving instructors have to pay for the fuel and very expensive car insurance to do their job. You might find some cheaper than others but, by and large, their pricing is fair.
AhoyPromenade on
£40 an hour as upper limit.
Let’s assume 7 chargeable hours per working day.
Self employed typically so no holiday pay.
7 hours * 5 days * £40 * 48 weeks = £67900
Subtract cost of fuel, the car itself and depreciation, car insurance.
Making OK money but hardly making bank. Especially in high cost of living areas.
swordoftruth1963 on
The average price quoted is £35 which doesn’t seem unreasonable for one to one tuition in someone else’s car. I doubt driving instructors are getting rich
HonorableNOIFOI on
Just another way in which right wing ideologies only benefit the ultra rich.
Everyone (who wants) has a right to drive and the government should bring about price controls so driving doesn’t just turn into some ultra rich pursuit with those who are less rich (including a disproportionate number of minorities etc) being excluded. This violates the equality act anyway.
Farewell-Farewell on
BBC excelling themselves in poor journalism. How are these people going to afford a car if they cannot afford lessons?
XenorVernix on
The cost of the lessons is much less than the cost of purchasing even a cheap old car and the first year of insurance. Especially so for under 25s.
shysaver on
The biggest problem is wages have barely grown over the last decade or two, so the price of driving lessons (and driving in general) has increased with inflation + other market forces, but wages have remained the same.
Combine that with a high proportion of people who barely have any savings, you get articles like this written where people are struggling with the weekly costs
Legitimate-Meat-3278 on
If they can’t pay for lessons they certainly can’t afford to buy, run, or maintain a car.
rev-fr-john on
Presumably once they have a licence their car,insurance, tax and fuel are all free.
terahurts on
Given that I and my friends were paying £10-£15 an hour back in 1989, £35 seems quite reasonable.
tarpdetarp on
Another BBC article designed to incite rage bait instead of any insightful reporting. A quote from one lady says she had to dip into her savings to pay for lessons… did she expect the council to be running them for free?
_MrBeef_ on
Up until 6 months ago for a year or so I paid £38 a lesson once a week. Had to pay extra for theory test, and in the 2 weeks prior to my practical test (passed first time) I paid for a whole block of ten lessons to have a lesson every single day to get enough practice in.
I’m now paying for insurance, tax, petrol and maintenance and upkeep which probably works out more than that.
If you can’t afford lessons, then you probably can’t afford to drive.
mgorgey on
If you can’t to spend £140 a month on driving lessons you can’t even get close to being able to afford to run a car,
NiceCornflakes on
It’s always been expensive because they have to pay for the fuel. I did my lessons at 18 in 2011 and they were expensive then as well. But I could only afford to do it because I received £1000 inheritance from my grandparents. Turned out I was useless, so ended up spending the entire amount as it took me over a year before being test-ready.
If I remember right, my lessons were £30-35 for the session, so it seems it’s not much more expensive now.
Practical-Purchase-9 on
Quite a few people think they’re clever saying if you can’t afford lessons then you can’t afford a car anyway, which a very short-sighted way of looking at it. Driving is a skill better learnt younger than older, when you have more free time (I learnt in summer holiday between years at Uni). A useful skill to have, just because you can’t afford a car right now doesn’t mean driving isn’t worth learning for future. Even if you can’t afford a car, you can drive a car for work, you can hire a car. Suddenly being in a position in life when you need to drive and not being able to for months is a big problem, it restricts where you can live and work, opportunity for travel or times when you simply need someone capable of driving. You can’t suddenly learn overnight when the necessity arises, learning to drive is best done before you have urgent need to be able to drive.
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What is the BBC thinking with these articles, then? Driving lessons are expensive, yes, we get that, so here’s a bunch of people complaining that they can’t afford more than £80 or £90 a month but expect to be tootling around in cars as new drivers?
Absolutely, get a driving licence, it’s a skill and it’s worth having, but this article is trying to make out that the only barrier to automotive joy is the cost of driving lessons…
Anyone who needs a license, get it fast. I think in the next 5 years it will be pretty much closed off for new drivers outside of those who are really well off.
Driving instructors have to pay for the fuel and very expensive car insurance to do their job. You might find some cheaper than others but, by and large, their pricing is fair.
£40 an hour as upper limit.
Let’s assume 7 chargeable hours per working day.
Self employed typically so no holiday pay.
7 hours * 5 days * £40 * 48 weeks = £67900
Subtract cost of fuel, the car itself and depreciation, car insurance.
Making OK money but hardly making bank. Especially in high cost of living areas.
The average price quoted is £35 which doesn’t seem unreasonable for one to one tuition in someone else’s car. I doubt driving instructors are getting rich
Just another way in which right wing ideologies only benefit the ultra rich.
Everyone (who wants) has a right to drive and the government should bring about price controls so driving doesn’t just turn into some ultra rich pursuit with those who are less rich (including a disproportionate number of minorities etc) being excluded. This violates the equality act anyway.
BBC excelling themselves in poor journalism. How are these people going to afford a car if they cannot afford lessons?
The cost of the lessons is much less than the cost of purchasing even a cheap old car and the first year of insurance. Especially so for under 25s.
The biggest problem is wages have barely grown over the last decade or two, so the price of driving lessons (and driving in general) has increased with inflation + other market forces, but wages have remained the same.
Combine that with a high proportion of people who barely have any savings, you get articles like this written where people are struggling with the weekly costs
If they can’t pay for lessons they certainly can’t afford to buy, run, or maintain a car.
Presumably once they have a licence their car,insurance, tax and fuel are all free.
Given that I and my friends were paying £10-£15 an hour back in 1989, £35 seems quite reasonable.
Another BBC article designed to incite rage bait instead of any insightful reporting. A quote from one lady says she had to dip into her savings to pay for lessons… did she expect the council to be running them for free?
Up until 6 months ago for a year or so I paid £38 a lesson once a week. Had to pay extra for theory test, and in the 2 weeks prior to my practical test (passed first time) I paid for a whole block of ten lessons to have a lesson every single day to get enough practice in.
I’m now paying for insurance, tax, petrol and maintenance and upkeep which probably works out more than that.
If you can’t afford lessons, then you probably can’t afford to drive.
If you can’t to spend £140 a month on driving lessons you can’t even get close to being able to afford to run a car,
It’s always been expensive because they have to pay for the fuel. I did my lessons at 18 in 2011 and they were expensive then as well. But I could only afford to do it because I received £1000 inheritance from my grandparents. Turned out I was useless, so ended up spending the entire amount as it took me over a year before being test-ready.
If I remember right, my lessons were £30-35 for the session, so it seems it’s not much more expensive now.
Quite a few people think they’re clever saying if you can’t afford lessons then you can’t afford a car anyway, which a very short-sighted way of looking at it. Driving is a skill better learnt younger than older, when you have more free time (I learnt in summer holiday between years at Uni). A useful skill to have, just because you can’t afford a car right now doesn’t mean driving isn’t worth learning for future. Even if you can’t afford a car, you can drive a car for work, you can hire a car. Suddenly being in a position in life when you need to drive and not being able to for months is a big problem, it restricts where you can live and work, opportunity for travel or times when you simply need someone capable of driving. You can’t suddenly learn overnight when the necessity arises, learning to drive is best done before you have urgent need to be able to drive.