Wow headline news! Woman moans about her council house, while majority will never even be offered one
abigblacknob on
Some people have no survival instinct. Should it be sorted by the council? Ofc. But who wants it more?
MDK1980 on
>poor ventilation
Can just stop reading there. She doesn’t let any fresh air into the property because she gets cold. Why is this always the council’s fault and not the tenant’s? I bet she’s also one of those who also covers up the trickle vents, too.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
She’s not going to be happy with the picture the BBC has ran with then.
pullingteeths on
Bunch of experts who have no clue what it’s like to be poor incoming
SubjectCraft8475 on
There are too many cases where the Tennant does not open windows and leaves clothes drying on radiators. This is the UK where the weather is cold and rainy most of the year so its the job of the Tennant to make sure they open windows and not use radiators for drying clothes. This isn’t an issue in other countries where the weather is hotter so people open windows more and outside is more sunny so people drying clothes outside.
Before I get the downvites I rented my house out to tennants where there was damp. I eventually moved into the house myself and never got any damp since I moved into the property.
CobblerSmall1891 on
Ok…
So you don’t open windows.
Don’t have a dehumidifier.
Probably dry laundry inside.
And then complain. Pathetic.
medievalrubins on
Gosh if only you could watch a YouTube video to help you solve this.
Galacticmetrics on
You need ventilation or this would happen in any home, especially in our climate. Bleach also good for taking care of existing mould
waygs1 on
Half these people commenting have clearly never lived in rented accomation where mold is an issue and it shows.
I lived in a flat with no garden and storage heaters that cost an absolute fortune to run. Despite my best efforts with ventilation and heating mold would still accumulate, particularly in the bathroom and bedrooms. Sometimes I had no choice but to dry clothes indoors due to the weather etc etc. During winter mold was unavoidable in the bedrooms because of the outdoor temperatures and having to keep windows shut.
I now live in a new build with good ventilation and cheaper heating and haven’t changed my living habits at all and yet have had zero black mold anywhere in the house.
Admittedly yes there are things the tenant can do to combat the mold such as buying dehumidifiers and running heating 24/7 but why should that come at the tenant’s cost when the property clearly isn’t fit for purpose. You can be drawn in by the “cheap” rent and then blindsided by the huge running costs of a poor sub-standard property as a result.
thebuttonmonkey on
I suppose the question is, as it’s a flat, are the others in the block the same? I wouldn’t ever pre-judge how this Venn diagram of ‘lack of maintenance by the council’ and ‘personal responsibility’ crosses, but if the rest of the block is the same then clearly it’s mostly on the council and the building. If not, there’re easy ways to fix it.
IG0tB4nn3dL0l on
“The property that I get for free at other people’s expense isn’t up to the standard that I would like, causing me some embarrassment. Of course I haven’t reported it to the council or attempted to do anything about it myself.” 🤡
FreakyGhostTown on
Tenant and landlord situations are one of those things where people lose all nuance on the situation.
There’s a middle-ground between the landlord has no responsibility & she’s the architect of everything wrong and that the council should be summoned if someone so much as farts to waft it away.
Ok_Corgi_1306 on
Been fixing mostly heating systems and carrying out other maintenance work in social housing for years and nine times out of ten, the state out the house is usually indicative of the user. The tenants get everything from regular call outs, heaters left, mould cleaned and repainted (albeit only with mould paint and cleaner) doors and windows as needed and regular surveys of work that may need carrying out.
What can happen is a trades attending the property see it’s an absolute shit hole and then take the option of doing the absolute minimum work to rectify it because they want to get out as quick as possible or in some instances bitterness, which is unfortunately human nature.
It’s all good having council and social housing but there needs to be far more guidelines on the Tennant side, because there’s thousands of houses being shat on by entitled people who don’t care about the opportunity/asset they’ve been granted.
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Nice-Firefighter-926 on
Put a jumper on and open the windows for a bit. Well constructed buildings are more susceptible to mould because the moist air can’t escape. I’ve had tenants that create mould and tenants that create no mould in the same flat. This is just common sense for most people.
BigFloofRabbit on
The bigger bearing is whether there is correct ventilation, sufficient heating and running a dehumidifier.
I have lived in some grim accommodation before and doing those things still keeps the mould at bay.
heppyheppykat on
I grew up in the same area and we always had problems with damp too, we also had the main drains for several houses running near ours and constantly had leakages and smells. My mum had cancer and lived with black mould in her room. We got double glazing after some kids threw a brick through the window, we had heat, we had trickle vents. Sometimes it was due to heavy rains and sometimes due to next doors plumbing leaking- that we couldn’t fix. Because ultimately it would be up to the landlords of next door to fix it. Our roof was insulated but we couldn’t afford to fix wear and tear. So during heavy rains we always had some sort of water coming into the house, usually in mine or my mum’s bedroom. We used some waterproof paint but that only lasts so long. The issue was not just the roof, the drains, the pipes- it was the wall too. Many houses and flats in the UK have outdated rendering which traps moisture within the walls. Willing to bet the flat has cement rendering.
I remember huge patches of black on the walls, and mushrooms growing in our kitchen.
Only after mum died could we afford to actually fix things. At least when she was alive, a whole group from her Church spent their own money and time to fix up her bedroom. For her final months she wasn’t sleeping with mould and I am grateful for that.
I am sickened by all the comments blaming the tennant. Some housing in certain areas is just poorly built and landlords shit. Especially in north west London. Do people not remember Grenfell? Some of these areas are particularly bad.
Ok-County608 on
Net drain on society complains subsidised life isn’t ideal enough
EnvironmentSea7920 on
Why have British taxpayers been funding her existence for the last 25 years???
Bunkerlala on
Her central heating needs fixing and her windows probably need replacing.
Having said that – if you ventilate your house properly, mould is not a problem.
There perfect solution is the council fitting a PIV. I reccomend them to everyone. I need to get one. They do wonders at my siblings homes.
In the absence of a PiV….
In the winter I just open all the windows and doors in the morning for 15-20 mins on dry days, let the air blast through the house. Then I’ll reheat it.
Daytimes I keep the bathroom and bedroom windows open and close the doors. At soon as the sun goes down I close them and the curtains, before putting the heating on.
I’ll do the same for the kitchen after every meal.
The living rooms get aired out when they’re not being used.
It’s not ideal for an old person, but it’s better than mould.
fitzgoldy on
Take some steps to stop it then, instead of expecting everyone to do it for you.
Ok-Swan1152 on
Coming from the Netherlands the build quality in UK buildings is just awful, the climate is not an excuse as the weather is similar back home but I’ve never seen mould inside homes the way I have here. And many people there don’t dry clothes outdoors, it’s too windy and it rains too much. We had the windows open all the time in our last flat and ran the dehumidifier constantly – we were battling mould everywhere. The mould showed up weeks after we’d moved in, around the doors and windows and shower. I had never even owned a dehumidifier before I moved to the UK. My parents dry clothing on the second floor of their house and they’ve never had mould problems in the house.
Low_Map4314 on
Maybe her kids can help out financially? Just saying..
Parking-Tip1685 on
It’s always London.
Yeah love, help yourself to some free housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world and then complain about it to people that will always be paying and will never be shown the same charity. It’s always, always London.
Madness_Quotient on
Councils need to fulfil their responsibilities to their tenants. End of story.
Blamers of the tenant need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
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stray_r on
So I had a damp problem in my property and got all of the “open a window” and “turn the heating on” bullshit.
95% humidity, dehumidifiers running flat out in every room, 21 to 25c all day every day.
The actual problem was a botched external modification was funneling rainwater under my floor and it was most expensive to sort, and appears to have been a council or council contractor failure 30+ years ago.
Similarly one of the houses I lived in as a student had a mould problem. Because they’d built a path above the damp course, the drains didn’t work and all the rainwater falling onto the roof of our house and the house next door formed a lake that soaked into the walls.
It wasn’t until they tried to evict us after the place actually flooded (somehow our fault) and we produced every email, letter, photo and video of the problem we had sent them, did they bother sending someone to investigate the cause. Easy fix. But victim blaming is even easier.
Vods on
The council are saying it was never reported, which if true, means she’s just left the entire property to rot for two years.
Plus_Ad_9181 on
When you live entirely off other people, you kind of have to take what you can get.
honkballs on
What I don’t understand is, why don’t they just clean it off?! Instead of sitting around and doing absolutely 0 maintenance, then complaining that someone should be doing it for them or be moved to a nicer free house…
I live in a 200 year old listed building, single glazed windows, it’s always cold, and I get mold patches all over the place, and when one pops up, I spray it down with mold killer and wipe it away, it’s a 2 minute job and it doesn’t come back for 1 – 2 years.
I found a very bad patch behind a wardrobe once, I sprayed it down, wiped what I could away, and painted over it with a mold resistant primer, that was 5 years ago, and it’s never come back.
Would I prefer to move to a nice modern building with better insulation and ventilation, yes absolutely, but I can’t afford it, so I make the best with what I have.
Available-Ask331 on
This is a common issue in some of the places where I work.
In summertime, windows closed. Heating up to 28⁰c. Clothes hanging up in the bedroom drying.
Black mould creeping up everywhere.
pas43 on
My sister has had black mould in her flat for 30 years LOL…
Crumpetlust on
A bottle of bleach is as cheap as 50p. A little bit of elbow grease and cracking a window open would sort this. Why is she moaning?
UHM-7 on
If only there was a solution, some sort of cheap chemical available at every supermarket and cornershop in the country, it could be really obvious like saying “BANG! BLACK MOULD REMOVER” in big letters… look at me daydreaming again..
SaltedCashewsPart2 on
Get a job and go earn some money to go pay for a flat.
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Wow headline news! Woman moans about her council house, while majority will never even be offered one
Some people have no survival instinct. Should it be sorted by the council? Ofc. But who wants it more?
>poor ventilation
Can just stop reading there. She doesn’t let any fresh air into the property because she gets cold. Why is this always the council’s fault and not the tenant’s? I bet she’s also one of those who also covers up the trickle vents, too.
She’s not going to be happy with the picture the BBC has ran with then.
Bunch of experts who have no clue what it’s like to be poor incoming
There are too many cases where the Tennant does not open windows and leaves clothes drying on radiators. This is the UK where the weather is cold and rainy most of the year so its the job of the Tennant to make sure they open windows and not use radiators for drying clothes. This isn’t an issue in other countries where the weather is hotter so people open windows more and outside is more sunny so people drying clothes outside.
Before I get the downvites I rented my house out to tennants where there was damp. I eventually moved into the house myself and never got any damp since I moved into the property.
Ok…
So you don’t open windows.
Don’t have a dehumidifier.
Probably dry laundry inside.
And then complain. Pathetic.
Gosh if only you could watch a YouTube video to help you solve this.
You need ventilation or this would happen in any home, especially in our climate. Bleach also good for taking care of existing mould
Half these people commenting have clearly never lived in rented accomation where mold is an issue and it shows.
I lived in a flat with no garden and storage heaters that cost an absolute fortune to run. Despite my best efforts with ventilation and heating mold would still accumulate, particularly in the bathroom and bedrooms. Sometimes I had no choice but to dry clothes indoors due to the weather etc etc. During winter mold was unavoidable in the bedrooms because of the outdoor temperatures and having to keep windows shut.
I now live in a new build with good ventilation and cheaper heating and haven’t changed my living habits at all and yet have had zero black mold anywhere in the house.
Admittedly yes there are things the tenant can do to combat the mold such as buying dehumidifiers and running heating 24/7 but why should that come at the tenant’s cost when the property clearly isn’t fit for purpose. You can be drawn in by the “cheap” rent and then blindsided by the huge running costs of a poor sub-standard property as a result.
I suppose the question is, as it’s a flat, are the others in the block the same? I wouldn’t ever pre-judge how this Venn diagram of ‘lack of maintenance by the council’ and ‘personal responsibility’ crosses, but if the rest of the block is the same then clearly it’s mostly on the council and the building. If not, there’re easy ways to fix it.
“The property that I get for free at other people’s expense isn’t up to the standard that I would like, causing me some embarrassment. Of course I haven’t reported it to the council or attempted to do anything about it myself.” 🤡
Tenant and landlord situations are one of those things where people lose all nuance on the situation.
There’s a middle-ground between the landlord has no responsibility & she’s the architect of everything wrong and that the council should be summoned if someone so much as farts to waft it away.
Been fixing mostly heating systems and carrying out other maintenance work in social housing for years and nine times out of ten, the state out the house is usually indicative of the user. The tenants get everything from regular call outs, heaters left, mould cleaned and repainted (albeit only with mould paint and cleaner) doors and windows as needed and regular surveys of work that may need carrying out.
What can happen is a trades attending the property see it’s an absolute shit hole and then take the option of doing the absolute minimum work to rectify it because they want to get out as quick as possible or in some instances bitterness, which is unfortunately human nature.
It’s all good having council and social housing but there needs to be far more guidelines on the Tennant side, because there’s thousands of houses being shat on by entitled people who don’t care about the opportunity/asset they’ve been granted.
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Put a jumper on and open the windows for a bit. Well constructed buildings are more susceptible to mould because the moist air can’t escape. I’ve had tenants that create mould and tenants that create no mould in the same flat. This is just common sense for most people.
The bigger bearing is whether there is correct ventilation, sufficient heating and running a dehumidifier.
I have lived in some grim accommodation before and doing those things still keeps the mould at bay.
I grew up in the same area and we always had problems with damp too, we also had the main drains for several houses running near ours and constantly had leakages and smells. My mum had cancer and lived with black mould in her room. We got double glazing after some kids threw a brick through the window, we had heat, we had trickle vents. Sometimes it was due to heavy rains and sometimes due to next doors plumbing leaking- that we couldn’t fix. Because ultimately it would be up to the landlords of next door to fix it. Our roof was insulated but we couldn’t afford to fix wear and tear. So during heavy rains we always had some sort of water coming into the house, usually in mine or my mum’s bedroom. We used some waterproof paint but that only lasts so long. The issue was not just the roof, the drains, the pipes- it was the wall too. Many houses and flats in the UK have outdated rendering which traps moisture within the walls. Willing to bet the flat has cement rendering.
I remember huge patches of black on the walls, and mushrooms growing in our kitchen.
Only after mum died could we afford to actually fix things. At least when she was alive, a whole group from her Church spent their own money and time to fix up her bedroom. For her final months she wasn’t sleeping with mould and I am grateful for that.
I am sickened by all the comments blaming the tennant. Some housing in certain areas is just poorly built and landlords shit. Especially in north west London. Do people not remember Grenfell? Some of these areas are particularly bad.
Net drain on society complains subsidised life isn’t ideal enough
Why have British taxpayers been funding her existence for the last 25 years???
Her central heating needs fixing and her windows probably need replacing.
Having said that – if you ventilate your house properly, mould is not a problem.
There perfect solution is the council fitting a PIV. I reccomend them to everyone. I need to get one. They do wonders at my siblings homes.
In the absence of a PiV….
In the winter I just open all the windows and doors in the morning for 15-20 mins on dry days, let the air blast through the house. Then I’ll reheat it.
Daytimes I keep the bathroom and bedroom windows open and close the doors. At soon as the sun goes down I close them and the curtains, before putting the heating on.
I’ll do the same for the kitchen after every meal.
The living rooms get aired out when they’re not being used.
It’s not ideal for an old person, but it’s better than mould.
Take some steps to stop it then, instead of expecting everyone to do it for you.
Coming from the Netherlands the build quality in UK buildings is just awful, the climate is not an excuse as the weather is similar back home but I’ve never seen mould inside homes the way I have here. And many people there don’t dry clothes outdoors, it’s too windy and it rains too much. We had the windows open all the time in our last flat and ran the dehumidifier constantly – we were battling mould everywhere. The mould showed up weeks after we’d moved in, around the doors and windows and shower. I had never even owned a dehumidifier before I moved to the UK. My parents dry clothing on the second floor of their house and they’ve never had mould problems in the house.
Maybe her kids can help out financially? Just saying..
It’s always London.
Yeah love, help yourself to some free housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world and then complain about it to people that will always be paying and will never be shown the same charity. It’s always, always London.
Councils need to fulfil their responsibilities to their tenants. End of story.
Blamers of the tenant need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
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So I had a damp problem in my property and got all of the “open a window” and “turn the heating on” bullshit.
95% humidity, dehumidifiers running flat out in every room, 21 to 25c all day every day.
The actual problem was a botched external modification was funneling rainwater under my floor and it was most expensive to sort, and appears to have been a council or council contractor failure 30+ years ago.
Similarly one of the houses I lived in as a student had a mould problem. Because they’d built a path above the damp course, the drains didn’t work and all the rainwater falling onto the roof of our house and the house next door formed a lake that soaked into the walls.
It wasn’t until they tried to evict us after the place actually flooded (somehow our fault) and we produced every email, letter, photo and video of the problem we had sent them, did they bother sending someone to investigate the cause. Easy fix. But victim blaming is even easier.
The council are saying it was never reported, which if true, means she’s just left the entire property to rot for two years.
When you live entirely off other people, you kind of have to take what you can get.
What I don’t understand is, why don’t they just clean it off?! Instead of sitting around and doing absolutely 0 maintenance, then complaining that someone should be doing it for them or be moved to a nicer free house…
I live in a 200 year old listed building, single glazed windows, it’s always cold, and I get mold patches all over the place, and when one pops up, I spray it down with mold killer and wipe it away, it’s a 2 minute job and it doesn’t come back for 1 – 2 years.
I found a very bad patch behind a wardrobe once, I sprayed it down, wiped what I could away, and painted over it with a mold resistant primer, that was 5 years ago, and it’s never come back.
Would I prefer to move to a nice modern building with better insulation and ventilation, yes absolutely, but I can’t afford it, so I make the best with what I have.
This is a common issue in some of the places where I work.
In summertime, windows closed. Heating up to 28⁰c. Clothes hanging up in the bedroom drying.
Black mould creeping up everywhere.
My sister has had black mould in her flat for 30 years LOL…
A bottle of bleach is as cheap as 50p. A little bit of elbow grease and cracking a window open would sort this. Why is she moaning?
If only there was a solution, some sort of cheap chemical available at every supermarket and cornershop in the country, it could be really obvious like saying “BANG! BLACK MOULD REMOVER” in big letters… look at me daydreaming again..
Get a job and go earn some money to go pay for a flat.