It would be cheaper to build a Luas type tram in Galway than deliver the ring road
JohnDempsy on
look to be fair im just amazed the goverment managed to conclude a report.
a-clockwork-kelly on
More roads don’t solve traffic. A very well know fact …
razerraysharp on
“increased transport demand will eventually result in the bypass becoming congested without further intervention”
And how bad will it get with increased demand _without_ the bypass?
ghostofgralton on
Galway City Council are obsessed with the idea, so I imagine they’ll decide to ignore this report
Rollorich on
So it won’t solve it 100% and the solution is to spend more on planning and eventually do nothing?
GerKoll on
Well…. technically it does, as it says in the article “congestion would decrease slightly between 2030 and 2040″…and this is where the Government stops reading, as by 2040 it will no longer be their problem….
Jean_Rasczak on
I know I will get downvoted for this but sure here goes
Isn’t the issue traffic within the city which a ringroad won’t actually help with and proper public transport would be a better option
As per the article above that seems to be the suggestion
Plus improved trains etc
Are we really still stuck in 2025 with the “build the road” mentality when we have seen it has never improved the situation and just creates a bigger issue longer term
CCFCEIGHTYFOUR on
The lifecycle of Irish urban area bypasses:
Build bypass
LA’s have a zoning party around the junctions and further out for commercial developers and housing. New retail park here, new housing estate there, just 20mins (drive) from the City!
Bypass becomes clogged at peak times with traffic from/to above
Bypass needs more lanes says local politicians and interests
Bypass upgraded for a pretty penny
More traffic from/to the above fills up the excess capacity
Local politicians and interests: We need a new outer bypass! Dublin gets everything!
See M50, N40 and indeed the original Galway ring.
TheChrisD on
Just fucking build it anyway?
JONFER--- on
The groups involved in writing these reports, and those who received the multiple tens of millions to fund various studies over the past 30 years are the real winners of the Galway city bypass scandal.
Four then it’s a gravy train that never ends.
I know Cannon, he doesn’t live anywhere near the city. It’s very easy for pundits to snipe at something from the sidelines and they won’t directly suffer from the results of what they are proposing.
A tram system will never work. More public transport is all well and good but buses still use the roads, if the roles they use are blocked up then they won’t make a blind bit of difference.
It’s a joke that because every other major city and town has decent political representation they have gotten these things decades ago, I have to begrudgingly appreciate all that Michael Ring got done for Mayo.
edit spelling.
Confident_Reporter14 on
Just one more lane!
Horror_Finish7951 on
Building more roads won’t solve traffic. At a time when cities are so important, and when net zero needs to be paramount, it’d be a disaster if they ploughed ahead with the ring road.
Galway needs to be a city of two or three small but frequent light rail lines.
If I was the NTA, I’d be using Galway as the perfect testing ground for some really groundbreaking research. You can’t really add much in the way of heavy rail into Galway because the way the city has grown doesn’t match the rail line at all, but build tram lines alongside the heavy rail lines in some parts?
It would enable them to provide some quite long-distance tram services to places like Athenry or potentially Ennis – and mean they could get right into the heart of these towns, thereby also providing connection hubs in each town.
Likewise, you could also build this “rail” to the western parts of the city, potentially out as far as Bearna.
earth-calling-karma on
Just switch off the lights on the roundabouts and let roundabouts round a bout. Things will immediately improve. Declare an emergency!
Atreides-42 on
No I’m sure one more lane will fix it this time!
amorphatist on
The actual report, being that the article is rubbish:
Galway traffic is so broken that I’m not sure how any amount of roads would actually fix it. Needs some public transport solutions and get people off the road. A massive issue is most of the jobs are one side of the city and most of the housing are the other. Taking the bus also takes ages due to traffic.
FrugalVerbage on
Best not build it so.
While we’re at it, having a government doesn’t seem to solve many other problems either, so away with them too.
Dr-Jellybaby on
We’ve known this for years. GCC have known this for years. They’re also incompetent morons with a hard on for cars. Can we just build the useless bypass at this point so idiots who think because they drive cars they’re transport engineers will shut up about it? Then we might finally get some progress.
Future_Jackfruit5360 on
Wonder what happened all that traffic during covid. Maybe we could do that again.
momalloyd on
Is there anything to be said for another ring road? God, I love ring roads.
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It would be cheaper to build a Luas type tram in Galway than deliver the ring road
look to be fair im just amazed the goverment managed to conclude a report.
More roads don’t solve traffic. A very well know fact …
“increased transport demand will eventually result in the bypass becoming congested without further intervention”
And how bad will it get with increased demand _without_ the bypass?
Galway City Council are obsessed with the idea, so I imagine they’ll decide to ignore this report
So it won’t solve it 100% and the solution is to spend more on planning and eventually do nothing?
Well…. technically it does, as it says in the article “congestion would decrease slightly between 2030 and 2040″…and this is where the Government stops reading, as by 2040 it will no longer be their problem….
I know I will get downvoted for this but sure here goes
Isn’t the issue traffic within the city which a ringroad won’t actually help with and proper public transport would be a better option
As per the article above that seems to be the suggestion
Plus improved trains etc
Are we really still stuck in 2025 with the “build the road” mentality when we have seen it has never improved the situation and just creates a bigger issue longer term
The lifecycle of Irish urban area bypasses:
Build bypass
LA’s have a zoning party around the junctions and further out for commercial developers and housing. New retail park here, new housing estate there, just 20mins (drive) from the City!
Bypass becomes clogged at peak times with traffic from/to above
Bypass needs more lanes says local politicians and interests
Bypass upgraded for a pretty penny
More traffic from/to the above fills up the excess capacity
Local politicians and interests: We need a new outer bypass! Dublin gets everything!
See M50, N40 and indeed the original Galway ring.
Just fucking build it anyway?
The groups involved in writing these reports, and those who received the multiple tens of millions to fund various studies over the past 30 years are the real winners of the Galway city bypass scandal.
Four then it’s a gravy train that never ends.
I know Cannon, he doesn’t live anywhere near the city. It’s very easy for pundits to snipe at something from the sidelines and they won’t directly suffer from the results of what they are proposing.
A tram system will never work. More public transport is all well and good but buses still use the roads, if the roles they use are blocked up then they won’t make a blind bit of difference.
It’s a joke that because every other major city and town has decent political representation they have gotten these things decades ago, I have to begrudgingly appreciate all that Michael Ring got done for Mayo.
edit spelling.
Just one more lane!
Building more roads won’t solve traffic. At a time when cities are so important, and when net zero needs to be paramount, it’d be a disaster if they ploughed ahead with the ring road.
Galway needs to be a city of two or three small but frequent light rail lines.
If I was the NTA, I’d be using Galway as the perfect testing ground for some really groundbreaking research. You can’t really add much in the way of heavy rail into Galway because the way the city has grown doesn’t match the rail line at all, but build tram lines alongside the heavy rail lines in some parts?
It would enable them to provide some quite long-distance tram services to places like Athenry or potentially Ennis – and mean they could get right into the heart of these towns, thereby also providing connection hubs in each town.
Likewise, you could also build this “rail” to the western parts of the city, potentially out as far as Bearna.
Just switch off the lights on the roundabouts and let roundabouts round a bout. Things will immediately improve. Declare an emergency!
No I’m sure one more lane will fix it this time!
The actual report, being that the article is rubbish:
https://assets.gov.ie/static/documents/Cost_of_Congestion_Regional_Cities_FINAL.pdf
Galway traffic is so broken that I’m not sure how any amount of roads would actually fix it. Needs some public transport solutions and get people off the road. A massive issue is most of the jobs are one side of the city and most of the housing are the other. Taking the bus also takes ages due to traffic.
Best not build it so.
While we’re at it, having a government doesn’t seem to solve many other problems either, so away with them too.
We’ve known this for years. GCC have known this for years. They’re also incompetent morons with a hard on for cars. Can we just build the useless bypass at this point so idiots who think because they drive cars they’re transport engineers will shut up about it? Then we might finally get some progress.
Wonder what happened all that traffic during covid. Maybe we could do that again.
Is there anything to be said for another ring road? God, I love ring roads.