Tech Boss: AI prenderà la metà dei lavori entry level nel Regno Unito
Anthropic boss: AI will take half of entry level jobs in the UK
di tylerthe-theatre
Tech Boss: AI prenderà la metà dei lavori entry level nel Regno Unito
Anthropic boss: AI will take half of entry level jobs in the UK
di tylerthe-theatre
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This is obvious and none of our politicians seem to be talking about it. AI is going to absolutely fuck this country and its tax base.
The first automation revolution hit blue collar jobs (was at the pub with a mate and his now retired dad, he was saying in the 60/70s the manufacturer he worked for was making people redundant every year as processes became more automated).
The second automation revolution will hit white collar working class jobs and it’ll be AI + being able to do stuff via the internet. Instead of calling say Sky or Virgin to cancel your TV as you used to you’ll login and then interact with an AI chatbot (you might even be able to do that now).
I use AI a lot in my day to day coding . It’s pretty crap at solving shit if you don’t have a clue what you want in the first place, and gives a fair bit of erroneous info (typically deprecated methods over rank hallucinatory) but it certainly speeds up the process of banging out boilerplate and simple UI. can see the threat it poses to grad / junior jobs.
It’s improving extremely fast.
People in these threads always post in a way that makes it sound like technology is static and won’t improve. Google seems quite confident that they will develop an AGI within the next few decades or even sooner. It’s capabilities will be mind bending.
I think what certain tech bosses overlook is that you still need entry level positions, because experienced & senior tech workers that are needed to monitor & train the AI don’t just spring from a hole in the ground.
The big shift is that the tech industry is no longer lucrative for newcomers because the chronic decades-long skills shortage is over. All the US multinationals have been doing layoffs & periodic hiring freezes since the pandemic, so things were already bad even before GenAI came along.
I’m excited to have my shelf-stacking job replaced by a computer that can’t lift anything up or clean up spills, but can hallucinate products that don’t exist.
Great! What a wonderful development. Such a great future for young people.
What a CEO says knowing what is that investors want to hear, and reality, usually does not match.
I don’t know whether to be very worried…or if it’s all marketing by companies:
We have been ‘10 years away’ from AGI in the 60s, 70s, Musk said it’d happen by 2022…late 2020s seems to be a date several have picked
Rodney Brooks of MIT thinks AGI is at least 100 years away….and he seems to be the only one who is talking about how complicated human intelligence is
https://rodneybrooks.com/parallels-between-generative-ai-and-humanoid-robots/
Edit: is it the AI we should be worried about or the capitalism of companies who are trying to make as much profit as they can
Ok but like, how? I am a software engineer with almost a decade of experience and use various AI tools to give me code and it’s like really accurate sometimes and sometimes it’s just a waste of time.
I even go out of my way to modify the Top K, Top P parameters and temperature, along with providing highly refined system prompts and still gets things wrong or it hallucinates, I am not sure how it is in other fields but for software development it is good at getting something basic out but it’s not very good at expanding or changing what it produced.
I think this is just fear mongering and marketing more than anything, I think AI is nowhere near at replacing people. Look at Klarna – laid off so many people so they can automate stuff using AI and it did not work and now they are hiring back now.
I used copilot all the time for tech related questions and powershell commands. It’s a great tool and helped me a lot. It’s taken the burden off my team as I’m not asking them so many questions as I learn.
There doesn’t seem to be much entry level work left before this. When I look on the jobsites it’s mostly specialists 2-3+ rungs up the career ladder.
I think we’re going to reach a point where there’s dead-end jobs and very senior and upper management roles and almost nothing in-between. It’ll mean it’s virtually impossible to progress your career through the first few stages and dead end jobs will also be decreasing in numbers while being flooded with applicants that can’t start a career.
I can’t see a scenario where unemployment doesn’t become crazily high. How are we going to deal with most people not just being temporarily unemployed but virtually unhireable for life.
So 1 year stats in an industry notorious for feast/famine hiring practices is cited, plus a boss of a tech company selling AI to companies specifically to replace junior staff.
I think AI will take jobs to some extent, although white collar jobs have been increasingly automated and so far we’ve not seen employment falling. Quicker analysis and data collection generates more info which must be analysed. Data must be verified etc.
Secretarial work, calculators, programming all increasingly automated and yet employment has not declined. The work has changed.
I feel like I got my first job by complete accident. It was a scary time and it hasn’t got easier AFAICT. Post AI who’s to say.
AI is absolute shite. Half, if not more, of what it ‘knows’ is plain wrong.
Despite what they might think, someone getting an entry level job is way more capable than any AI.
You’re going to need to employ more people to fix the AI fuckups than it would have taken to do the job in the first place.
They’re simply trying to get more cash, more investment.
All current entry level roles. The new entry level roles will require skills. This is why apprenticeships are going to become a more popular route into work, as it’s focused on getting the people accelerated into a skilled position, jumping over the current entry level positions. If you’re a business that has to pay into the apprenticeship levy, then you’ve already spent most of the cost of having apprentices. A lever the government could use is to increase the apprenticeship levy, which should create more apprenticeship positions.
And the other half will be outsourced to other countries for pennies/cents on the Pound/Dollar/Euro. Really feel sorry for the younger ones coming up, shits really stacked against them.
Great, let AI do the tech work and man can go back to farming and living off the land again. Simple living, higher thinking. That’s what we need
The same was said about the internet 20yrs ago. It didn’t happen. Tech bosses are just hyping up AI to boost their company values. This bubble can’t pop soon enough
It’s a great time to get into robotics/robotics maintenance.
Once AI has a body, that body will need mending.
Never believe anyone that is trying to sell you something.
No it’s not because that mean that you are gonna need ppl to look after the AI,
AI is clearly not in a state of being left alone doing it thing for now…. really fucking annoyed by those PR stunt.
AI is failing at the minute because Human have always failed to express what they want and how they want it and anyone in the industry that has work in WaterFall or Agile will tell you how frustrating it is to work with ppl who can’t express themself.
I’m board of those ppl pushing for a dream of getting richer and fantasm on “look we are totally gonna screw over a generation”
fucking muppet
“And if you want in on the value created, give me a £600m pre-seed round at £4.5bn valuation for this product that in no way is propped up by hoards of Indian tech workers.”
Nice, now we just need to totally rewrite how society works and we’ll be set.
What? We aren’t going to do that?
We’re going to stagger into a full on dystopia?
Brill.
Don’t fall for it.
He’s the CEO of an AI company, of course he is going to try and big up AI services, he wants to boost his companies share price.
So uhhhhh who’s going to keep paying taxes lol? Like at some point there will be a point where people have had enough surely they realise the only reason the government have the power they do is because people let them right
Myself and I’m sure others have already felt the redundancy hammer as Ai is being pushed out by their company to benefit customers, when in reality it benefits their pockets. I encounter more and more chatbots if I visit a site for travel, banking, shopping – you name it.
My new phone has loads of ai options and I don’t use any of them.
Just like excel was going to destroy the accounting industry and robots were going to destroy the manufacturing industry.
I will believe it when it starts actually happening, till then I’ll assume anyone saying this has a vested interest in promoting ai.
Half taken by AI, half taken by cheap foreign labour. Damn I would hate to be a young person in 10 years trying to get a job.
Like the closing of the coal mines but on a huge scale. There were 200k jobs lost and we still see the scars of what happened.
This is going to eclipse that. Imagine what this is going to do for towns like Milton Keynes and Newport. They are the next Barnsley.
It’s going to be grim.
Buckle up, fam.
Technology has been “taking” jobs for millennia. Life has only gotten better because of it not worse.
I believe AI will be / is a game changer but are these companies paying and developing and buying AI that’s more advanced that what we can buy? Are they buying AI or LLM’s because there is a difference. I ask because even the paid versions get things wrong a fair bit and if you rely on that as a business it will cost you. Plus with the rise of cyber attacks is there not more cost involved with the security? Feels like something that’s going to happen and needs to be prepared for but it’s early days and it all sounds a bit bandwagony with long term negative consequences. But I could be reading the room wrong.
I remember seeing so many headlines in the years leading up to ChatGPT launching to the public saying that businesses would never use AI to replace their workforce.
So many. And so many books. It was like they were trying to soft launch all this.
The thing releases and then businesses can’t seem to sack their workforces fast enough. Isn’t it sad that it’s never about enriching and contributing to the country that raised and gave you the opportunities to live successfully — it’s _always_ just about making as much money as possible. Whether it’s a tech startup or a privatised water company.
just fucking print ur cv and go into an office an ask for the hiring manager. Firm handshake and look em in the eye. If u do this 10 places (easy in a day – we did it and we didn’t have Ubers and that rubbish u got now) then u will get a job.
Prove it.
Every time we get the AI salespeople in at work they claim they’ll be able to automate some full workflow. “By the end of the year our new agents will be able to do issue analysis, write the change, test it and deploy it to prod”.
OK, fine. Prove you can do any of those steps. Just the simplest individual task in that workflow at > 50% accuracy “Oh, no, that would be a waste of time. Just wait for the agents.”
They’ve got an interesting tech that will make some jobs 10-20% more productive. That’s great.
But if they admit that then it’ll collapse the insane valuations of their companies. The only way to justify them needing that sort of funding/valuation is if they can keep the AGI hype train going.
These people understand if AI can replace low-level workforce it will become easier for people to create and mimic businesses and flood the markets with more competition.
What roles? Give me one role that’s fully replaced by AI?
I’ve seen and experienced tonnes of examples where it helps aid productivity. But never anything close to removing an actual person.
I can’t wait to never be able to speak to a real person when i call somewhere. It’ll all be AI bots and it will be hopeless to get actual help.
We’re cooked
[https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1kxs6yq/were_cooked_a_zerocost_ai_demo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1kxs6yq/were_cooked_a_zerocost_ai_demo/)
Lol going from ” migrants taking our jobs” to “AI taking our jobs” soon. Meanwhile the rich continue to shaft us and pit us against each other and against progress. The only ones taking our jobs and ruining our standard of living are the rich millionaires and Billionaires.
Fatima’s job in IT will be taken over by AI (she just doesn’t know it yet).
Lmao good luck having enough mid level engineers then, how do we get new mid senior engineers if we dont give them a chance to work their way up
Just an excuse to put people out of work and not pay them. Maximising profits.
There is a reason why so many Asian countries still employ people to work over choosing automation. It’s better for society, but again, further evidence politicians either don’t care or are too stupid or are too incompetent. AI is a curse, not a cure
How is AI going to clean the bog, or serve customers in a cafe?