How much did Robert jenrick’s party cost us? More than £130 billion pounds?
billy_tables on
This is like when film producers or music labels say how many millions of revenue piracy “costs” them
People dodging fares were never going to pay in the first place. The cost of fare dodging is just the marginal cost of transporting them.
If it’s less than enforcement would cost, up enforcement. Truth is it isn’t, and I don’t think TFL are in the mood to make more losses chasing other losses
Spiritual-Plan809 on
TBF that’ll only get you about fifty miles on the train.
Mba1956 on
The obvious answer is to have more people checking tickets. The fare dodging would disappear and revenue would increase by £100m by employing 1000 extra people @ £40k a year salary.
GreenyRed on
The problem is that the transport is too expensive for some people, eating into their minimum wage pay. If it was subsidised more, people would be much less inclined to fare dodge.
DimensionTiny8725 on
And their extortionate prices make 130m people poorer…
rationalplan10 on
The problem with fare evasion is not so much the loss of revenue, it is the people That are doing it. A good number are violent anti social people. We all have had encounters over the years with trouble makers on the trains and tube.
parkway_parkway on
So just one guy commuting in daily on peak … Standing room only the whole way.
Iyotanka1985 on
I can make up shit too , “ridiculous fare hikes reinforce poverty barriers”… Wait that’s not made up …
TheObrien on
So 2.6% of TFLs annual €£5bn annual ticket revenue is lost. I would guess the cost of reducing it is significant enough that it makes it – unappealing.
But yeah let’s try to justify Jenricks little stunt…
bobblebob100 on
“Fare evasion is not a victimless crime. It robs Londoners of vital investment in a safe, frequent and reliable transport network and we are committed to reducing the current rate of fare evasion to 1.5% by 2030.”
I dont agree with fare dodging, but do we really think that £130m would be invested in the network?
franklindstallone on
I bet if tied ticket price increases to fuel duty increases that might help.
k3nn3h on
The financial impact is important, of course, but even more important is the screening aspect. The kind of person willing to break the law over a couple of quid isn’t the kind of person we want on public transport!
SoggyWotsits on
Robert Jenrick pointed out that none of the staff wanted to intervene. That’s fair enough, they’re probably not paid enough. The question is though, what are they being paid to do? If they don’t want to intervene then they may as well be put to use elsewhere!
YchYFi on
Tbh it’s not hard to do when some stations I went on only had a small yellow box to tap that was not in an obvious place.
VamosFicar on
Different take: It should be free anyway.
If you want a region to grow and thrive then make it freely accessible. At the moment it’s just a tax on the plebs who can’t afford to live near their workplace. Fund it to be free and see the benefits to society and business.
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How much did Robert jenrick’s party cost us? More than £130 billion pounds?
This is like when film producers or music labels say how many millions of revenue piracy “costs” them
People dodging fares were never going to pay in the first place. The cost of fare dodging is just the marginal cost of transporting them.
If it’s less than enforcement would cost, up enforcement. Truth is it isn’t, and I don’t think TFL are in the mood to make more losses chasing other losses
TBF that’ll only get you about fifty miles on the train.
The obvious answer is to have more people checking tickets. The fare dodging would disappear and revenue would increase by £100m by employing 1000 extra people @ £40k a year salary.
The problem is that the transport is too expensive for some people, eating into their minimum wage pay. If it was subsidised more, people would be much less inclined to fare dodge.
And their extortionate prices make 130m people poorer…
The problem with fare evasion is not so much the loss of revenue, it is the people That are doing it. A good number are violent anti social people. We all have had encounters over the years with trouble makers on the trains and tube.
So just one guy commuting in daily on peak … Standing room only the whole way.
I can make up shit too , “ridiculous fare hikes reinforce poverty barriers”… Wait that’s not made up …
So 2.6% of TFLs annual €£5bn annual ticket revenue is lost. I would guess the cost of reducing it is significant enough that it makes it – unappealing.
But yeah let’s try to justify Jenricks little stunt…
“Fare evasion is not a victimless crime. It robs Londoners of vital investment in a safe, frequent and reliable transport network and we are committed to reducing the current rate of fare evasion to 1.5% by 2030.”
I dont agree with fare dodging, but do we really think that £130m would be invested in the network?
I bet if tied ticket price increases to fuel duty increases that might help.
The financial impact is important, of course, but even more important is the screening aspect. The kind of person willing to break the law over a couple of quid isn’t the kind of person we want on public transport!
Robert Jenrick pointed out that none of the staff wanted to intervene. That’s fair enough, they’re probably not paid enough. The question is though, what are they being paid to do? If they don’t want to intervene then they may as well be put to use elsewhere!
Tbh it’s not hard to do when some stations I went on only had a small yellow box to tap that was not in an obvious place.
Different take: It should be free anyway.
If you want a region to grow and thrive then make it freely accessible. At the moment it’s just a tax on the plebs who can’t afford to live near their workplace. Fund it to be free and see the benefits to society and business.