Livello di disinformazione “scioccante” intorno alle riprese di Carlow, Taoiseach dice | BreakingNews.ie

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    1. Dangerous-Shirt-7384 on

      If only we had a national public service broadcaster at our disposal to shed light on the story.

      RTE didn’t have anything up for hours after the shooting and when they did get around to it it was a paragraph of text with nothing specific “reports of a shooting incident in Carlow, more to follow…”

    2. Misinformation is a problem.

      But these statements are ridiculous, saying this is “online” makes every internet user a target when really it’s a minority but vocal bunch of nut jobs on specific platforms.

      For example I was never exposed to any misinformation about this incident yet the head of our government was? Perhaps that needs to be investigated itself. Where’s he getting his information online? Why is the head of government participating in nut job circles to the point that he gets exposed to this sort of thing.

      You can’t combat misinformation without taking away freedoms so every time a leader starts spouting on about misinformation it should have all of our backs up against the walls.

    3. guinnessarse on

      Seems a bit like a red herring to me. Bringing in speech controls and using the crazy aunts/uncles/cousins of Facebook (who nobody listens to anyway, for anything other than entertainment purposes) as the reason for doing so is just an excuse. 

      Mícheál Martin has told lies before, Harris has lied, varadkar lied. In our last referendum they lied to the people that there would be no immigration repercussions of the decision and it took a FoI request to prove that they were lying about this and knew this wouldn’t be the case. They lied about home completion figures pre election too. 

      Censoring the speech of the populous whilst spreading lies on a national level is tyrannical and we have just become desensitised to how extreme this is because they have bombarded us with the dangers of disinformation. 

    4. GrahamR12345 on

      Well when it takes 10 business days to get an official report of course people are just going to go with what ever they heard…

    5. mobrules1 on

      It makes you realise the far-right, alt-right, whatever you want to call them, they want people in Ireland to be killed, they claim to want to ‘protect’ Ireland but when an incident happens anywhere they get excited, they get a buzz from it, and they pray that someone has been hurt and the perpetrator is from x group.

      That goes for Derek Blighe, that goes for Gavin Pepper, Malachy Steenson, Philip Dwyer, all of them and everyone who supports them.

      They want to see people in Ireland get hurt just so they feel justified in pushing their bile and spreading division in Irish communities.

    6. BeanEireannach on

      >“Obviously, in any analysis and evaluation of policy, account will be taken in respect of protecting freedom of speech – but it’s not freedom of speech, really, when it’s just a blatant lie and untruth which can create a lot of public disquiet, as we’ve seen.

      I don’t doubt that there’s misinformation out there, even if I haven’t come across it myself about these particular events.

      I do worry though, that whatever changes in law FFG make won’t *only* be targeting individuals or groups who share misinformation. Micheál Martin & co regularly lose the rag when they’re on the receiving end of (valid, mild & not inappropriate) criticism so a part of me does wonder what element of pettiness would be inserted into new changes.

      Also, the “public disquiet” that MM is referring to doesn’t exactly appear to be one of their high priorities at the moment – the groups harassing families attending a school in Dublin immediately come to mind.

    7. Active-Complex-3823 on

      Same man who lied to us that FF would build 40,000 homes in 2024

      Same man who lied that IPAS applicants are ‘vetted’

      And RTE parroting both lies.

    8. Important_Farmer924 on

      Social media has changed the landscape. Details around cases like this have always been released in due time but thanks to FB/Twitter, every 2nd cunt “knows the story” and they’re dead wrong 99% of the time.

    9. Henry_Bigbigging on

      Is that not mis- but disinformation – it is designed to be manipulative or intended to cause harm, rather than misinformation which tends to be more like a mistake in reporting.

      You’ve got a whole plethora of scumbags that are spreading rancid disinformation, mainly on Twitter, Facebook and TikTok, so you could take your pick at disinfo merchants.

    10. NopePeaceOut2323 on

      They get way to excited about the thought of it being a foreigner.

    11. StickAroundBennet on

      This is a complete red herring. When there’s a void of information, it naturally gets filled with speculation and gossip – just as it did long before the internet existed. We don’t need more regulation of speech. What we need is truth, transparency, and honesty. Michael Martin has repeatedly misled the public – will he be sanctioned for that? Of course not. So who exactly gets to regulate online discourse? Him? Absolutely not. This push is nothing more than a pretext for censorship.

    12. Crackabis on

      Had a family member claiming that a dozen people were dead (including children), he had a suicide vest on him, multiple shooters, all of this tripe was coming from Twitter. They are absolutely hooked on getting all of this crap from random accounts that aren’t even based in Ireland, it’s genuinely worrying how far some people have gone down the rabbit hole on this shit.

      Some people need to have their internet access revoked because they lack a basic skill level of critical thinking.

    13. MouseJiggler on

      Well, give us the full details then. Set the record straight.

    14. Misinformation coming from everywhere

      TD Ruth Coppinger aired some misinformation linked to it on her twitter account.

    15. Silent-Mirror2877 on

      I presume this explains RTE’s sudden policy change around publishing the colour and ethnicity of the people involved in a criminal incident? Although it’s odd they seem to have abandoned that policy as quickly as they adopted it

    16. BlueBucket0 on

      I was just commenting to a friend of mine about it yesterday when that passenger on the flight from Newark kicked off at Dublin Airport. The facts of the incident didn’t seem to bother them **at all** – there were just suddenly hundreds of angry posts about immigration, all being whipped up by the same kinds of accounts – all it seems to take is a few nasty posts and next thing there’s a pile on.

    17. cedardesk on

      ***’Shocking’ level of misinformation around Carlow shooting on websites I’m afraid to hold accountable, TikTok Taoiseach says***

    18. Odd-Internal-3983 on

      Sounds like some new censorship legislation is being written up

    19. hoopla_poodle_noodle on

      Media literacy has been in the toilet for years. People don’t even need bullshit sources like Gript or The Liberal anymore, they skip to concocting a fantasy that confirms their biases and can broadcast it to thousands in minutes.

    20. Dr-Jellybaby on

      If anyone repeats some stupid conspiracy in your face just laugh at them. Gives them an opportunity to pretend it was a joke but if they double down you can laugh even harder and feel good about making some eejit think twice about believing stuff on the internet.

      Genuinely seems like the only way out of the inevitable spread of stupid disease.

    21. Margrave75 on

      The nutters online claiming it was a “black lad” that did it, but it’s a massive Garda Arrrrrrrr-teeeee-eeeeeee cover up and they just grabbed the white lad and shot him so there’d be no court case.

      Fuckin mentalers.

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