Hopefully it’s better produced than the Richard/Tina Satchwell Prime Time episode last night.
Dazzling_Lobster3656 on
Chronic Chronic dangerous levels of staff shortages
freshfrosted on
Piss boiling stuff to watch.
Fair play to that staff member calling them out on the pads. I genuinely feel for women like that who are good at what they do and are hamstrung by fuckwits higher up who only care about the bottom line. 10 days to get pads is outrageous.
Humble_Ostrich_4610 on
It’s grand, the nursing home company issued an apology.
dooferoaks on
Makes you wonder if HIQA is fit for purpose when Nursing Homes are allowed to continue operating like this.
Phannig on
I looked after my terminally ill father for seven years before his passing. He once ended up in hospital followed by being in a nursing home for three days after a bladder infection caused delirium. Once he came around he made me get him the fuck out of it. He said it was worse than a prison. I thought he was exaggerating but now I understand. I feel sick watching this. I should have gotten him out sooner. I feel terrible for people who have no choice but to trust their loved ones to these places watching this.
TwitterRoyalty on
Look, you won’t have a home to fair deal yourselves into one of these facilities, so relax.
DeathDefyingCrab on
How many of these prime time have there been, nothing seems to change, Politicians will talk about it at leaders questions…Next week will be over crowding accomodation…
give_me_the_push on
I had family members working in care of the elderly when the Leas Cross special and report came out that led to the establishment of HIQA for both private (which leas cross was) and public nursing homes.
I’ve worked as a HCA in both private and public nursing homes when HIQA came for an inspection and made recommendations for the improvement of service and care. The private sector could implement some of the recommendations because ultimately the cost of these could be passed on to families and residents, the public service had hands tied by the usual public service red tape and lack of funding (I’m referring to significant improvements like changes to the layout, bed numbers, staffing numbers). This blew my mind because in my naivety I assumed that a public inspectorate making recommendations to another public body meant that these had to be followed through with, it rarely ever was when it came to the significant recommendations.
What’s being unspoken is that this appears to be a consequence of privatizing parts of the health service, private nursing homes will always cut corners with staffing because ultimately it’s purpose is to make profits for it’s shareholders/investors. Yet again we’re here with a scandal with the private sector of health care with a public funded inspectorate that ultimately can’t push for any meaningful change apart from pulling a license for the nursing home to operate.
I’ve avoided watching the programme fully tonight, it’s too upsetting. My father was very lucky to have a lovely public nursing home to go to for respite in the years leading up to his death and received fantastic care there I’ve seen hard working front line staff in both private and public provide kindness and excellent standards of care in the years I worked in nursing homes, my back is ruined from the years working in them (two surgeries in the past two years from the damage).
AffectionateLaw973 on
This report is shocking, a failure of care on sobmany levels. I suspect this is widespread within the sector. There has to be people watching this tonight in shock knowing their loved ones are in this position tonight
afreshlybakedcookie1 on
HCAs in private nursing homes are criminally underpaid for the work they do and the experiences they go through every single day they’re in there. Back breaking work, exposed to shite and piss. Sometimes they get punched, slapped, pinched, scratched, spat on, verbally abused etc by residents with dementia or not.
Some families, not all, are quite rude. They look down on HCAs like garbage. Management are shite, if there’s no staff they would not get an agency HCA to fill because agency is expensive. Break times are shite, you get 15 mins on your morning break, the 5 mins are already gone by the time the kettle stopped boiling. The list goes on.
Necessary-Fudge-5264 on
That was absolutely awful to watch. Half just staff shortages and then half (probably brought on by the staff shortages) just absolutely depressed and over it staff treating people like shit.
Burnout when you’re working in an accountancy firm or tech firm etc etc, whatever, it’s shite but nothing absolutely awful really happens if your work goes to shite. But when it’s something healthcare related it’s disastrous.
Nothing healthcare related should be in the private sector. In fact nothing for the general public good should be. It just leads to these horrible scenarios where profit-chasing destroys the vital services they supply. Even having the option of private medical care, nursing homes, dental for fuck sake ; just makes the public ones worse because the wages can’t compare with private (or the government see it easier to outsource to private).
Up the public wages, phase out private companies in any of these spaces, regulate the fuck out of them and stop things like this constantly happening
the_fonze78 on
I sometimes wonder is worth my while trying to stay healthy if this is what awaits me in old age.
Id rather do away with myself
Unpopular_Op_93 on
I worked in a private nursing home as a HCA in north county Dublin for a year and a half over 10 years ago. I left work in tears probably 3 out of 5 shifts a week. We were understaffed looking after people with significantly advanced dementia, and the staff we did have, 80% were incompetent, rough, dismissive and rude. I was a whistle blower, many a times. I was PUNISHED for whistle blowing, on one occasion after complaining about the bruising of clients I was told ‘old people bruise like peaches’.
Nurses did not believe they had to help, leaving care assistants to do the physical work. More often than not, people were left to sit in their own urine and faeces. Imagine as a 19 year old care assistant watching this and trying to advocate for your elderly patients. I handed in my notice after a final attempt at complaining about what I was witnessing.
I went on to train as a nurse, to be everything the opposite of what I saw in that nursing home. The private nursing home sector is a disgrace. And unfortunately it is the only option for a lot of families. But I would urge people to do their research. Always trust your gut. Whistle blow. Ask the questions no matter how stupid they make may you feel.
Remember that a lot of the management at the top are in it for the money.
Educational-Law-8169 on
Not surprised by anything in the programme. Most nursing homes are run as a business. HIQA will inspect but in my experience are only concerned with correct documentation/care plans. Most of the staff are coming from overseas and go 1st to private nursing homes then do their best to get HSE posts. There’s simply not enough staff to provide a high standard of care and also newer staff will pick up bad habits from experienced staff. Staff can be treated really badly by management and also families are not always easy to deal with as the staff are on the receiving end of everyone’s frustration.
Sportyskater699 on
This is what happens when you don’t train nurses/doctors/assistants to Irish healthcare standards ,I see it with the people close to me ,a lot of these nurses/assistants are great to have but they are not qualified to deal with the elderly ,over 80% of medical malpractice was by foreign trained healthcare individuals.Its mirrored in the prime time show aswell.
Obvious-Specific1610 on
They don’t properly train staff or pay good people to retain them. Then we are shocked when incompetent people are left in charge of vulnerable. I hope MAID is implemented when I am that age cos no way am I living the rest of my days in a nursing home. I seen my grandparents suffer in them and those homes cost a fortune
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On RTE right now.
Hopefully it’s better produced than the Richard/Tina Satchwell Prime Time episode last night.
Chronic Chronic dangerous levels of staff shortages
Piss boiling stuff to watch.
Fair play to that staff member calling them out on the pads. I genuinely feel for women like that who are good at what they do and are hamstrung by fuckwits higher up who only care about the bottom line. 10 days to get pads is outrageous.
It’s grand, the nursing home company issued an apology.
Makes you wonder if HIQA is fit for purpose when Nursing Homes are allowed to continue operating like this.
I looked after my terminally ill father for seven years before his passing. He once ended up in hospital followed by being in a nursing home for three days after a bladder infection caused delirium. Once he came around he made me get him the fuck out of it. He said it was worse than a prison. I thought he was exaggerating but now I understand. I feel sick watching this. I should have gotten him out sooner. I feel terrible for people who have no choice but to trust their loved ones to these places watching this.
Look, you won’t have a home to fair deal yourselves into one of these facilities, so relax.
How many of these prime time have there been, nothing seems to change, Politicians will talk about it at leaders questions…Next week will be over crowding accomodation…
I had family members working in care of the elderly when the Leas Cross special and report came out that led to the establishment of HIQA for both private (which leas cross was) and public nursing homes.
I’ve worked as a HCA in both private and public nursing homes when HIQA came for an inspection and made recommendations for the improvement of service and care. The private sector could implement some of the recommendations because ultimately the cost of these could be passed on to families and residents, the public service had hands tied by the usual public service red tape and lack of funding (I’m referring to significant improvements like changes to the layout, bed numbers, staffing numbers). This blew my mind because in my naivety I assumed that a public inspectorate making recommendations to another public body meant that these had to be followed through with, it rarely ever was when it came to the significant recommendations.
What’s being unspoken is that this appears to be a consequence of privatizing parts of the health service, private nursing homes will always cut corners with staffing because ultimately it’s purpose is to make profits for it’s shareholders/investors. Yet again we’re here with a scandal with the private sector of health care with a public funded inspectorate that ultimately can’t push for any meaningful change apart from pulling a license for the nursing home to operate.
I’ve avoided watching the programme fully tonight, it’s too upsetting. My father was very lucky to have a lovely public nursing home to go to for respite in the years leading up to his death and received fantastic care there I’ve seen hard working front line staff in both private and public provide kindness and excellent standards of care in the years I worked in nursing homes, my back is ruined from the years working in them (two surgeries in the past two years from the damage).
This report is shocking, a failure of care on sobmany levels. I suspect this is widespread within the sector. There has to be people watching this tonight in shock knowing their loved ones are in this position tonight
HCAs in private nursing homes are criminally underpaid for the work they do and the experiences they go through every single day they’re in there. Back breaking work, exposed to shite and piss. Sometimes they get punched, slapped, pinched, scratched, spat on, verbally abused etc by residents with dementia or not.
Some families, not all, are quite rude. They look down on HCAs like garbage. Management are shite, if there’s no staff they would not get an agency HCA to fill because agency is expensive. Break times are shite, you get 15 mins on your morning break, the 5 mins are already gone by the time the kettle stopped boiling. The list goes on.
That was absolutely awful to watch. Half just staff shortages and then half (probably brought on by the staff shortages) just absolutely depressed and over it staff treating people like shit.
Burnout when you’re working in an accountancy firm or tech firm etc etc, whatever, it’s shite but nothing absolutely awful really happens if your work goes to shite. But when it’s something healthcare related it’s disastrous.
Nothing healthcare related should be in the private sector. In fact nothing for the general public good should be. It just leads to these horrible scenarios where profit-chasing destroys the vital services they supply. Even having the option of private medical care, nursing homes, dental for fuck sake ; just makes the public ones worse because the wages can’t compare with private (or the government see it easier to outsource to private).
Up the public wages, phase out private companies in any of these spaces, regulate the fuck out of them and stop things like this constantly happening
I sometimes wonder is worth my while trying to stay healthy if this is what awaits me in old age.
Id rather do away with myself
I worked in a private nursing home as a HCA in north county Dublin for a year and a half over 10 years ago. I left work in tears probably 3 out of 5 shifts a week. We were understaffed looking after people with significantly advanced dementia, and the staff we did have, 80% were incompetent, rough, dismissive and rude. I was a whistle blower, many a times. I was PUNISHED for whistle blowing, on one occasion after complaining about the bruising of clients I was told ‘old people bruise like peaches’.
Nurses did not believe they had to help, leaving care assistants to do the physical work. More often than not, people were left to sit in their own urine and faeces. Imagine as a 19 year old care assistant watching this and trying to advocate for your elderly patients. I handed in my notice after a final attempt at complaining about what I was witnessing.
I went on to train as a nurse, to be everything the opposite of what I saw in that nursing home. The private nursing home sector is a disgrace. And unfortunately it is the only option for a lot of families. But I would urge people to do their research. Always trust your gut. Whistle blow. Ask the questions no matter how stupid they make may you feel.
Remember that a lot of the management at the top are in it for the money.
Not surprised by anything in the programme. Most nursing homes are run as a business. HIQA will inspect but in my experience are only concerned with correct documentation/care plans. Most of the staff are coming from overseas and go 1st to private nursing homes then do their best to get HSE posts. There’s simply not enough staff to provide a high standard of care and also newer staff will pick up bad habits from experienced staff. Staff can be treated really badly by management and also families are not always easy to deal with as the staff are on the receiving end of everyone’s frustration.
This is what happens when you don’t train nurses/doctors/assistants to Irish healthcare standards ,I see it with the people close to me ,a lot of these nurses/assistants are great to have but they are not qualified to deal with the elderly ,over 80% of medical malpractice was by foreign trained healthcare individuals.Its mirrored in the prime time show aswell.
They don’t properly train staff or pay good people to retain them. Then we are shocked when incompetent people are left in charge of vulnerable. I hope MAID is implemented when I am that age cos no way am I living the rest of my days in a nursing home. I seen my grandparents suffer in them and those homes cost a fortune