Education system is more favorable for woman, has been for quite some time now. You can see it also in Universities.
506c616e7473 on
We hire now more women in IT and IT related roles than young men.
edit: oh no, downvotes by men.
Craft_on_draft on
Men earn more – what’s wrong with men
Women earn more – what’s wrong with men
Senuttna on
Many companies now have gender quotas that mandates that a certain percentage of hires need to be women. This creates an artificial demand for women that doesn’t exist for men.
This situation is accentuated in some industries where women are a minority (like IT or engineering) which means that companies now have to fight between themselves to hire women which translates into giving significantly higher salaries to women than to men. It’s just an artificial demand caused by gender quotas.
Automatic-Light8369 on
when the pay gap is in favor of men it’s opression
when it’s the reverse it’s “what’s up with boys”
Pure-Acanthisitta783 on
It’s almost like there was over a decade of people pushing to men that they’re more than just a worker droning for a paycheck, and to enjoy life while simultaneously pushing to women that we belong in the workplace and that financial success makes us better than other women.
TokyoMegatronics on
i just want to play videogames man…
Original_Mulberry652 on
It’s called overcorrection. You over compensate for a problem and then create a brand new problem.
LittleSchwein1234 on
When society started switching from “equal rights” to “fuck men and suck it up if you disagree” the problems started to grow.
Equality is the answer, not quotas and ignorance of men’s problems such as mental health.
halee1 on
Is no one actually reading the article?
> One of the many findings of the Lost Boys report is that **for those working full-time between the ages of 16 and 24, the gender pay gap has reversed.** This means that for much of Gen Z – including those who have recently left university – women on average are slightly higher paid than men. **In later life, this is expected to reverse and widen in favour of men,** a gap that is usually attributed to greater male participation in higher-paying fields and the “motherhood penalty”, which reflects the disproportionate share of childcare undertaken by women.
Acrobatic-B33 on
Higher education is more focused on women, making them getting better degrees thus making more money
Calm-Rate-7727 on
I am a teacher, and this doesn’t surprise me. Sadly my boys,17 – 18 years old, on average are still behind the girls academically.
markosinjo on
women start outperforming men in anything by 1% and it’s suddenly a crisis. “Men are falling behind women, what do we do!?”, “How do we encourage boys to take studying seriously?”
Natural-Possession10 on
Women are more highly educated on average so they earn more at first but their earnings will fall behind when they start having children.
BmanTM on
This is gonna get ugly.
ReadyAndSalted on
Hasn’t this been the case for a while in many countries? The gender pay gap in many parts of the world is chiefly a gap between mothers and everyone else. Young women out earn young men (they also outperform in school, probably not a coincidence), then as we go up in ages, the gap reverses. This isn’t a generation thing, it’s a maternal break and family responsibilities thing.
Metrack15 on
I’m sure the comments are going to be civilized and aim for true equality between both parties instead of bashing heads against each other
throwaway_failure59 on
This is UK only but this sub will now argue that in say, Poland or Hungary, where women are banned from aborting or are sneak-screenshoted in state newspapers, men are actually the oppressed ones
Proof_Picture_3962 on
Why would anyone be surprised with this? It’s in line with feminism’s objective to destroy men.
AnalphabeticPenguin on
Are we still on the gender pay gap?
It’s a way overused statistic. It takes the whole working population and describes it by 1 binary quality. You won’t get any worthy data from that. It’s a fun fact type statistic.
_CatLover_ on
Hating on people based on gender is apparently very much allowed on Reddit, good to know.
Educational_Place_ on
I know men and women earning in younger years almost equally. It gets worse for the women pay wise when the woman has a child. But for teh younger generation I know more men who are jobless than women, so maybe this is also part of the reason?
MissPandaSloth on
I bet having entire right wing machine saying that universities and education are gay and you should hussle doesn’t encourage education either.
PloyTheEpic on
Im 19, my experience during school was quite clear, in that boys glorify not giving a shit about school (even the academically succesful ones). While girls also did that to some extent, a lot more girls put effort in their studying. Seems to be a cultural thing rather than some feminist conspiracy to ruin mandom.
This was my experience across several different public schools in 2 different countries
thedaftbaron on
The backlash to this will be strong
ExplosiveMonky on
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aWobblyFriend on
women have higher social capital than men which didn’t mean much for decades because discrimination and legal policies meant they couldn’t translate it into real capital like men could. but now that they can, and also that men’s relative social capital is declining even further, they are increasingly outcompeting men at every level except the very top, which I should say is still male-dominated.
G00bre on
Because of the woke mind-virus, men are getting pregnant and staying at home with the kids, leading to a decrease in earnings.
(/s, in case anybody needs it. Gen Z aren’t having kids lmao)
absurditT on
Men are opting out.
A large part of why men were driven to succeed and earn money was to provide for women and children. Money was seen as a step on the ladder to a life partner, stable relationship, kids, etc, which is actually all a lot of guys want.
The current, absolutely atrocious state of the dating scene, social relationships between men and women being further apart than ever, and ever growing number of women saying they don’t want kids, and a lot more men are looking at this and going “what’s the point for me then?”
If they can earn enough to be relatively happy, go out with their mates, engage in their hobbies, but ultimately live paycheck to paycheck forever more, many are simply choosing that option.
Now cost of living, housing crisis, etc… that effects everyone equally. That’s why I’m focusing on this more uniquely male difference in the equation to explain where all the motivation to climb a career ladder has dissolved away from. By and large, almost everything men do that requires significant input of effort, is in pursuit of women or in provision for their kids (current or future). If you’re not looking at those factors in the male psyche, on a societal level, you’re looking in the wrong place.
Robin_Gr on
I feel like I have been seeing reports that women outperform men in education for over a decade. I think this is a logical extrapolation of that.
Imherehithere on
Blame employers, oligarchs and billionaires and shareholders.
uspec on
I have No Idea, but my first thought was: Woman on onlyfans
PMagicUK on
Young women have always earned more than young men but that switches after 30. (Feminists never mention this pay gsp)
So has this switch reversed to 30 now as well??
Witty-Table-8556 on
Do people still believe gender pay gap is an existing thing? It factually never existed no matter if men or women are said to earn more.
Whitechix on
Something I’ve noticed is whatever metric men are ahead in the topic at hand is always one of oppression, inequality and unfairness but whenever it’s women ahead it’s always argued to be actually equality, a personal failing of the man or a general downplay of a social issue.
It’s so obvious feminists or any left wing party is never going to pursue any affirmative action, scholarships or DEI inclusion for any man and I fear that’s going to push a generation into horrible far right extremism.
TechniqueSquidward on
What about the ‘real’ gender pay gap though that is brought up so often in discussions about the pay gap? Is it reversed as well, are women actually starting to get paid more for the same job?
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It’s time to profit from DEI boys
Education system is more favorable for woman, has been for quite some time now. You can see it also in Universities.
We hire now more women in IT and IT related roles than young men.
edit: oh no, downvotes by men.
Men earn more – what’s wrong with men
Women earn more – what’s wrong with men
Many companies now have gender quotas that mandates that a certain percentage of hires need to be women. This creates an artificial demand for women that doesn’t exist for men.
This situation is accentuated in some industries where women are a minority (like IT or engineering) which means that companies now have to fight between themselves to hire women which translates into giving significantly higher salaries to women than to men. It’s just an artificial demand caused by gender quotas.
when the pay gap is in favor of men it’s opression
when it’s the reverse it’s “what’s up with boys”
It’s almost like there was over a decade of people pushing to men that they’re more than just a worker droning for a paycheck, and to enjoy life while simultaneously pushing to women that we belong in the workplace and that financial success makes us better than other women.
i just want to play videogames man…
It’s called overcorrection. You over compensate for a problem and then create a brand new problem.
When society started switching from “equal rights” to “fuck men and suck it up if you disagree” the problems started to grow.
Equality is the answer, not quotas and ignorance of men’s problems such as mental health.
Is no one actually reading the article?
> One of the many findings of the Lost Boys report is that **for those working full-time between the ages of 16 and 24, the gender pay gap has reversed.** This means that for much of Gen Z – including those who have recently left university – women on average are slightly higher paid than men. **In later life, this is expected to reverse and widen in favour of men,** a gap that is usually attributed to greater male participation in higher-paying fields and the “motherhood penalty”, which reflects the disproportionate share of childcare undertaken by women.
Higher education is more focused on women, making them getting better degrees thus making more money
I am a teacher, and this doesn’t surprise me. Sadly my boys,17 – 18 years old, on average are still behind the girls academically.
women start outperforming men in anything by 1% and it’s suddenly a crisis. “Men are falling behind women, what do we do!?”, “How do we encourage boys to take studying seriously?”
Women are more highly educated on average so they earn more at first but their earnings will fall behind when they start having children.
This is gonna get ugly.
Hasn’t this been the case for a while in many countries? The gender pay gap in many parts of the world is chiefly a gap between mothers and everyone else. Young women out earn young men (they also outperform in school, probably not a coincidence), then as we go up in ages, the gap reverses. This isn’t a generation thing, it’s a maternal break and family responsibilities thing.
I’m sure the comments are going to be civilized and aim for true equality between both parties instead of bashing heads against each other
This is UK only but this sub will now argue that in say, Poland or Hungary, where women are banned from aborting or are sneak-screenshoted in state newspapers, men are actually the oppressed ones
Why would anyone be surprised with this? It’s in line with feminism’s objective to destroy men.
Are we still on the gender pay gap?
It’s a way overused statistic. It takes the whole working population and describes it by 1 binary quality. You won’t get any worthy data from that. It’s a fun fact type statistic.
Hating on people based on gender is apparently very much allowed on Reddit, good to know.
I know men and women earning in younger years almost equally. It gets worse for the women pay wise when the woman has a child. But for teh younger generation I know more men who are jobless than women, so maybe this is also part of the reason?
I bet having entire right wing machine saying that universities and education are gay and you should hussle doesn’t encourage education either.
Im 19, my experience during school was quite clear, in that boys glorify not giving a shit about school (even the academically succesful ones). While girls also did that to some extent, a lot more girls put effort in their studying. Seems to be a cultural thing rather than some feminist conspiracy to ruin mandom.
This was my experience across several different public schools in 2 different countries
The backlash to this will be strong
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women have higher social capital than men which didn’t mean much for decades because discrimination and legal policies meant they couldn’t translate it into real capital like men could. but now that they can, and also that men’s relative social capital is declining even further, they are increasingly outcompeting men at every level except the very top, which I should say is still male-dominated.
Because of the woke mind-virus, men are getting pregnant and staying at home with the kids, leading to a decrease in earnings.
(/s, in case anybody needs it. Gen Z aren’t having kids lmao)
Men are opting out.
A large part of why men were driven to succeed and earn money was to provide for women and children. Money was seen as a step on the ladder to a life partner, stable relationship, kids, etc, which is actually all a lot of guys want.
The current, absolutely atrocious state of the dating scene, social relationships between men and women being further apart than ever, and ever growing number of women saying they don’t want kids, and a lot more men are looking at this and going “what’s the point for me then?”
If they can earn enough to be relatively happy, go out with their mates, engage in their hobbies, but ultimately live paycheck to paycheck forever more, many are simply choosing that option.
Now cost of living, housing crisis, etc… that effects everyone equally. That’s why I’m focusing on this more uniquely male difference in the equation to explain where all the motivation to climb a career ladder has dissolved away from. By and large, almost everything men do that requires significant input of effort, is in pursuit of women or in provision for their kids (current or future). If you’re not looking at those factors in the male psyche, on a societal level, you’re looking in the wrong place.
I feel like I have been seeing reports that women outperform men in education for over a decade. I think this is a logical extrapolation of that.
Blame employers, oligarchs and billionaires and shareholders.
I have No Idea, but my first thought was: Woman on onlyfans
Young women have always earned more than young men but that switches after 30. (Feminists never mention this pay gsp)
So has this switch reversed to 30 now as well??
Do people still believe gender pay gap is an existing thing? It factually never existed no matter if men or women are said to earn more.
Something I’ve noticed is whatever metric men are ahead in the topic at hand is always one of oppression, inequality and unfairness but whenever it’s women ahead it’s always argued to be actually equality, a personal failing of the man or a general downplay of a social issue.
It’s so obvious feminists or any left wing party is never going to pursue any affirmative action, scholarships or DEI inclusion for any man and I fear that’s going to push a generation into horrible far right extremism.
What about the ‘real’ gender pay gap though that is brought up so often in discussions about the pay gap? Is it reversed as well, are women actually starting to get paid more for the same job?
That means women will pay for dates now? Awesome