473.000 flights a year, that is 54 flights per hour, about 1 every minute. Continously – day and night. 365 days per year.
Comfortable_Cup4689 on
Nature loves it.
Bloodsucker_ on
This is stupid. I live nearby the airport (in Amsterdam) and yes, sometimes you can hear it but c’mon. You live nearby an airport and you know where you were moving to.
Reducing airplanes frequency to half (hyperbole), will still make absolutely no difference in my perceived noise.
It doesn’t bother me, and tbh it shouldn’t really bother anyone cause it isn’t as bad. I’d rather have the airport close and get there in 15m by bus. Fucking move somewhere else. The airport and the frequency is much older than you.
The solution isn’t to reduce flights by a little bit, but to avoid construction near the airport. Also, to relocate the entirety of the airport somewhere else (which I also don’t want because it’s super convenient). Anything else, is being stupid.
Benedictus84 on
‘The sector is so important that King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, a licensed commercial pilot, occasionally flies with KLM as a guest pilot.’
That does not make the sector important.
In fact, 1% of our GDP makes it a pretty insignificant sector.
‘Dutch judges have a track record of making drastic decisions affecting entire sectors, such as agriculture, in order to protect the environment and people’s health.This is a terrible article.’
Those are not drastic decisions. They are keeping the government to its own laws and agreements.
This is a terrible article. But that was to be expected with that title.
Other then that. Maybe we should stop making more money for a few people the priority over the health of many people
realmendontfeel on
Ahh if its okay for you, they must all be wrong
Straight_Chip on
Ik raad de Haagse Zaken aflevering hierover aan! Hierin wordt in detail onderzocht wat er allemaal speelt. Ik denk echt dat de inwoners rondom Schiphol echt gelijk hebben: ze worden constant bedrogen door Schiphol met allerlei trucjes zoals deze: “The government says, ‘We want 20 percent less noise.’ The aircraft that we have bought, and that [manufacturers] are going to produce, [are] 20 percent less noisy. So we don’t understand why there’s an issue and why there has to be reduction in slots,” Air France-KLM’s Smith said.
[In deze Haagse Zaken hoor je van onderzoeksjournalisten Karlijn Kuijpers en Derk Stokmans over hun onderzoek naar deze geluidshinder. Ze vertellen hoe ze te werk zijn gegaan, welke en politieke besluitvorming door de jaren heen heeft plaatsgevonden hoe ook dit dossier weer een voorbeeld is van hoe de overheid er niet voor haar burger is.](https://open.spotify.com/episode/14XUpbg3VAljQMyoJq4gr5 )
Private-Puffin on
As they say:
Lex dura est sed lex.
The government made laws to protect the population and environment and judges have applied it.
Just because its not in the governments favour doesn’t make it a bad law.
The law is there for everyone, regardless of weither the government like it or not.
LendMeCoffeeBeans on
People choose to move near an airport and then complain about airport noises
Can’t make this shit up
AccurateComfort2975 on
The article is quite bad. Calling it a brawl makes it sound petty, and it isn’t. It’s about substantial problems, underreporting and numerous large infractions on all regultions. Pretty much continuously. Negative health outcomes of long term noise disturbance have also been proven.
Also quite important is that Schiphol is not part of the city of Amsterdam but in the much smaller municipality of Haarlemmermeer. Where it’s written that ‘the city’ wants this or that, it’s not Amsterdam.
TimeTraveller2207 on
And outside Europe, aviation is growing like crazy. We are becoming the new third world.
Shirolicious on
Just build one on the ocean like Japan did in Osaka.
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473.000 flights a year, that is 54 flights per hour, about 1 every minute. Continously – day and night. 365 days per year.
Nature loves it.
This is stupid. I live nearby the airport (in Amsterdam) and yes, sometimes you can hear it but c’mon. You live nearby an airport and you know where you were moving to.
Reducing airplanes frequency to half (hyperbole), will still make absolutely no difference in my perceived noise.
It doesn’t bother me, and tbh it shouldn’t really bother anyone cause it isn’t as bad. I’d rather have the airport close and get there in 15m by bus. Fucking move somewhere else. The airport and the frequency is much older than you.
The solution isn’t to reduce flights by a little bit, but to avoid construction near the airport. Also, to relocate the entirety of the airport somewhere else (which I also don’t want because it’s super convenient). Anything else, is being stupid.
‘The sector is so important that King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, a licensed commercial pilot, occasionally flies with KLM as a guest pilot.’
That does not make the sector important.
In fact, 1% of our GDP makes it a pretty insignificant sector.
‘Dutch judges have a track record of making drastic decisions affecting entire sectors, such as agriculture, in order to protect the environment and people’s health.This is a terrible article.’
Those are not drastic decisions. They are keeping the government to its own laws and agreements.
This is a terrible article. But that was to be expected with that title.
Other then that. Maybe we should stop making more money for a few people the priority over the health of many people
Ahh if its okay for you, they must all be wrong
Ik raad de Haagse Zaken aflevering hierover aan! Hierin wordt in detail onderzocht wat er allemaal speelt. Ik denk echt dat de inwoners rondom Schiphol echt gelijk hebben: ze worden constant bedrogen door Schiphol met allerlei trucjes zoals deze: “The government says, ‘We want 20 percent less noise.’ The aircraft that we have bought, and that [manufacturers] are going to produce, [are] 20 percent less noisy. So we don’t understand why there’s an issue and why there has to be reduction in slots,” Air France-KLM’s Smith said.
[In deze Haagse Zaken hoor je van onderzoeksjournalisten Karlijn Kuijpers en Derk Stokmans over hun onderzoek naar deze geluidshinder. Ze vertellen hoe ze te werk zijn gegaan, welke en politieke besluitvorming door de jaren heen heeft plaatsgevonden hoe ook dit dossier weer een voorbeeld is van hoe de overheid er niet voor haar burger is.](https://open.spotify.com/episode/14XUpbg3VAljQMyoJq4gr5 )
As they say:
Lex dura est sed lex.
The government made laws to protect the population and environment and judges have applied it.
Just because its not in the governments favour doesn’t make it a bad law.
The law is there for everyone, regardless of weither the government like it or not.
People choose to move near an airport and then complain about airport noises
Can’t make this shit up
The article is quite bad. Calling it a brawl makes it sound petty, and it isn’t. It’s about substantial problems, underreporting and numerous large infractions on all regultions. Pretty much continuously. Negative health outcomes of long term noise disturbance have also been proven.
Also quite important is that Schiphol is not part of the city of Amsterdam but in the much smaller municipality of Haarlemmermeer. Where it’s written that ‘the city’ wants this or that, it’s not Amsterdam.
And outside Europe, aviation is growing like crazy. We are becoming the new third world.
Just build one on the ocean like Japan did in Osaka.