Nice that Uber is using a British company for its driverless tech.
>The ride-hailing app will work with the UK artificial intelligence (AI) firm Wayve, which has been testing out the technology on the city’s streets with human oversight, in line with current legislation.
badgersruse on
As a cyclist this terrifies me. UK roads and conditions just don’t suit self driving cars… there just isn’t the margin of error that American roads have, let alone the lack of consistency in road markings and signage drivers in the UK deal with every day. I’m in tech and have some understanding of such things.
Front-Ad-7032 on
Seen them a few times driving around London already.
bugra101 on
I’d like to see one of these cars in Great British countryside roads. They won’t last 3 minutes.
Harrry-Otter on
If we do have driverless cars, couldn’t that be the death of Uber in general?
ghrrrrowl on
Lol of the places to trial driverless cars….the UK! Haven’t they seen double roundabouts? Crazy flyovers? Streets so narrow they scrape door mirrors? Road markings faded by years of rain? Backing up country lanes to let cars pass? White van drivers?
grapplinggigahertz on
Driverless cars in America where there are ‘jaywalking’ laws – that’s just about workable, but in the UK…
Undoubtably there will be a social media driven trend of teenagers leaping out in front of these to film the car screeching to a halt as the automated systems kick in and then it being unable to drive on as they stand in front of it.
And then there will be the teenagers who leap out in front of what they thought was a driverless taxi that would screech to a stop, but it wasn’t…
Dennyisthepisslord on
I wonder what they think the current drivers will be able to do as a job when these become the norm
Underconcretetrees on
Going to be really interesting when everything is automated by the few and the many have no means of paying for it
adobaloba on
No driver, no salary, cheaper to hire, right?… RIGHT?!
Without doing research I’ve never seen that the law regarding liability for self driving cars in the UK has been put in place. If such a car veers into a cycle lane and kills a cyclist who is liable to criminal prosecution? There might not be a person in the car to blame. Is it the the head of engineering at uber? Is it no one?
Tesla and l believe Mercedes have both said, last l checked, that it would be ‘the driver’ as in the car’s occupant. That is both silly and doesn’t work here.
CatsGotANosebleed on
I used a Waymo in San Francisco earlier this year and the experience was so cool. The car drove nicely and it felt safe.
I can’t imagine how it’d be like in the U.K. though. SF was a big grid, hardly the clunky or ridiculous one way systems that so many U.K. cities and towns have.
Fluid-Economist8150 on
Thank god. Let’s start getting rid of these unskilled jobs. Do lorries next too
iamezekiel1_14 on
As someone that works with a variety of things – including digital traffic orders (which were brought in under the Automated Vehicles Bill – which facilitates this) – there’s elements of this that genuinely scares me. The tech vs the system genuinely isn’t good enough at the minute. Don’t be so lazy as well – focus and drive the car.
Relative-Chain73 on
Let’s never get such ubers. Literally taking jobs out of the working class. Boycott ubers.
fnaaaaar on
Why is TfL allowing this? What about all the human people who rely on earning money from driving cabs in order to support themselves and their families?
Mrbrownlove on
The uber drivers round my way are lethal as it is. Almost as if they’re completely new to driving in the UK.
ash_ninetyone on
Imagine a driverless car hurtling towards you at the speed limit down some narrow country lane.
I know idiot drivers can do that too. But there’s more a responsibility attached and consequences to that idiot, than to a company who would apply this.
It doesn’t sit easy with me. Our road infrastructure, especially in Europe is a bit dated, narrow and not as easily interpreted by machines at this technology level.
BalianofReddit on
Nah, let some other country be their test bed for the job destruction machine.
High-Tom-Titty on
Last I heard they said you have to be sober if you use a driverless taxi in case you need to intervene which kinda defeats the point, might as well drive.
Split-Lost on
Ahhh the responses here just reinforce how anti technology the UK is
Back to reading the daily mail for most of the commenters on here! Don’t forget to vote Nigel!
Glow1x on
tell them to sort the UK roads out first, disaster waiting to happen
BritanniaGlory on
The BBC has to explain to people what a waymo is after they were burnt in LA because we are years behind in technology.
We are a developing country.
EmeraldJunkie on
Driverless cars are really interesting, but they’re such an American idea, where the automobile is king and there’s nought but flat asphalt for miles.
Here, the technology would probably be better suited towards something like trains or trams, where it’s a much more tightly controlled system where there’s less chance of something random affecting the track. We could also do with updating our rail network at the same time, but beggars can’t be choosers.
Zerttretttttt on
I bet they make its super cheap initially to drive taxi drivers out of business, then buy all then when they go bankrupt and the raise prices
Competitive_Pen7192 on
The way a good portion of cabbies drive you’re not going to do any worse…
Will probably improve things as ateast AI can be taught to not lane weave and not to brake erratically.
pkb369 on
>Customers there can choose whether to take a robotaxi if there is one available, with no difference in fare.
Omegalul. Wouldnt surprise me if they never do make it cheaper, even if they recoup the R&D.
noodle_dreamer on
Driverless taxis are cool as long as the company takes full accountability if and when something goes wrong (software glitch/network issues or what not).
ConsciouslyIncomplet on
Have just got back from San Francisco and used WayMo. They were absolutely amazing and should immediately be implemented in all major cities.
-You_Cant_Stop_Me- on
The Waymo self driving cars in LA are being deployed by the protesters to defend themselves from government violent, by turning them into burning rolling barricades.
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Nice that Uber is using a British company for its driverless tech.
>The ride-hailing app will work with the UK artificial intelligence (AI) firm Wayve, which has been testing out the technology on the city’s streets with human oversight, in line with current legislation.
As a cyclist this terrifies me. UK roads and conditions just don’t suit self driving cars… there just isn’t the margin of error that American roads have, let alone the lack of consistency in road markings and signage drivers in the UK deal with every day. I’m in tech and have some understanding of such things.
Seen them a few times driving around London already.
I’d like to see one of these cars in Great British countryside roads. They won’t last 3 minutes.
If we do have driverless cars, couldn’t that be the death of Uber in general?
Lol of the places to trial driverless cars….the UK! Haven’t they seen double roundabouts? Crazy flyovers? Streets so narrow they scrape door mirrors? Road markings faded by years of rain? Backing up country lanes to let cars pass? White van drivers?
Driverless cars in America where there are ‘jaywalking’ laws – that’s just about workable, but in the UK…
Undoubtably there will be a social media driven trend of teenagers leaping out in front of these to film the car screeching to a halt as the automated systems kick in and then it being unable to drive on as they stand in front of it.
And then there will be the teenagers who leap out in front of what they thought was a driverless taxi that would screech to a stop, but it wasn’t…
I wonder what they think the current drivers will be able to do as a job when these become the norm
Going to be really interesting when everything is automated by the few and the many have no means of paying for it
No driver, no salary, cheaper to hire, right?… RIGHT?!
Whether these are viable or not, it will only take a couple of accidents for there to be a massive panic. One study claimed “[81 percent fewer airbag-deploying crashes](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/411522/self-driving-car-artificial-intelligence-autonomous-vehicle-safety-waymo-google)”, but there’s no way people will accept even this reduction in the same way we happily accept everyday road casualties.
Without doing research I’ve never seen that the law regarding liability for self driving cars in the UK has been put in place. If such a car veers into a cycle lane and kills a cyclist who is liable to criminal prosecution? There might not be a person in the car to blame. Is it the the head of engineering at uber? Is it no one?
Tesla and l believe Mercedes have both said, last l checked, that it would be ‘the driver’ as in the car’s occupant. That is both silly and doesn’t work here.
I used a Waymo in San Francisco earlier this year and the experience was so cool. The car drove nicely and it felt safe.
I can’t imagine how it’d be like in the U.K. though. SF was a big grid, hardly the clunky or ridiculous one way systems that so many U.K. cities and towns have.
Thank god. Let’s start getting rid of these unskilled jobs. Do lorries next too
As someone that works with a variety of things – including digital traffic orders (which were brought in under the Automated Vehicles Bill – which facilitates this) – there’s elements of this that genuinely scares me. The tech vs the system genuinely isn’t good enough at the minute. Don’t be so lazy as well – focus and drive the car.
Let’s never get such ubers. Literally taking jobs out of the working class. Boycott ubers.
Why is TfL allowing this? What about all the human people who rely on earning money from driving cabs in order to support themselves and their families?
The uber drivers round my way are lethal as it is. Almost as if they’re completely new to driving in the UK.
Imagine a driverless car hurtling towards you at the speed limit down some narrow country lane.
I know idiot drivers can do that too. But there’s more a responsibility attached and consequences to that idiot, than to a company who would apply this.
It doesn’t sit easy with me. Our road infrastructure, especially in Europe is a bit dated, narrow and not as easily interpreted by machines at this technology level.
Nah, let some other country be their test bed for the job destruction machine.
Last I heard they said you have to be sober if you use a driverless taxi in case you need to intervene which kinda defeats the point, might as well drive.
Ahhh the responses here just reinforce how anti technology the UK is
Back to reading the daily mail for most of the commenters on here! Don’t forget to vote Nigel!
tell them to sort the UK roads out first, disaster waiting to happen
The BBC has to explain to people what a waymo is after they were burnt in LA because we are years behind in technology.
We are a developing country.
Driverless cars are really interesting, but they’re such an American idea, where the automobile is king and there’s nought but flat asphalt for miles.
Here, the technology would probably be better suited towards something like trains or trams, where it’s a much more tightly controlled system where there’s less chance of something random affecting the track. We could also do with updating our rail network at the same time, but beggars can’t be choosers.
I bet they make its super cheap initially to drive taxi drivers out of business, then buy all then when they go bankrupt and the raise prices
The way a good portion of cabbies drive you’re not going to do any worse…
Will probably improve things as ateast AI can be taught to not lane weave and not to brake erratically.
>Customers there can choose whether to take a robotaxi if there is one available, with no difference in fare.
Omegalul. Wouldnt surprise me if they never do make it cheaper, even if they recoup the R&D.
Driverless taxis are cool as long as the company takes full accountability if and when something goes wrong (software glitch/network issues or what not).
Have just got back from San Francisco and used WayMo. They were absolutely amazing and should immediately be implemented in all major cities.
The Waymo self driving cars in LA are being deployed by the protesters to defend themselves from government violent, by turning them into burning rolling barricades.