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    1. BustySubstances on

      Non-paywall archive link: https://archive.ph/Q3WtL

      >Businesses could be forced to tell workers what their colleagues earn under measures designed to boost pay transparency.

      >Ministers are considering how to end pay discrimination, with options including insisting that employers list salary brackets on job adverts and mandating companies to publish pay structures and criteria for progression.

      >They are also consulting on whether to increase the level of fines that can be levied on firms that fall foul of equal pay rulings, which will be expanded to include race and disability discrimination.

      >The drive is part of an overhaul of equality laws, which would also make public authorities account for socioeconomic disadvantages in their decisions.

    2. EastRiding on

      As progressive as this could be in our US office the state has similar requirements and so about 8 people do roughly the same job but all with different job titles to justify slightly different rates of pay.

      I suspect UK companies will cotton onto this tactic because they like to use wages (and promised future raises) as the carrot to “keep putting in effort”.

    3. I completely agree that we should be more open about what we earn, but anything that focuses on the employer will be worked around in weeks. A rule that says pay bands must be published just means pay bands become huge and all encompassing, and tells you nothing of value.

      Unless you can know exactly what someone is on, it’s pointless, which is why we need to remove the cultural taboo and start talking about money. Speak to your colleagues, find out what they’re on, offer to go first, do it at a christmas party after a few drinks, and remember there’s nothing your employer can do about it.

    4. FatYorkshireLad on

      I’ve been saying for years; what good are equal pay laws (equal pay for the same job) if the employees don’t know whether they’re being paid differing salaries.

    5. Wolf_Cola_91 on

      I think this would be positive. 

      Secrecy over pay allows businesses to pay employees less and pay unequally. 

      I think if everyone found out their colleagues pay, there would be a lot of awkward conversations. 

    6. insomnimax_99 on

      Yeah no, how much money I make is none of anyone else’s business.

      I do tell other people how much I make if they ask, but I don’t want the decision as to who knows how much I make taken out of my hands.

      I’ve always been a private person. My financial situation is none of anyone else’s business.

    7. When I worked for one of the big high street banks they were VERY big on keeping pay quiet. At pay review managers were given a big long blurb to read and use to base their pay conversations on. It went over why pay is confidential and you would be disciplined for discussing it with colleagues.

      They even walked the line with US colleagues who have a legal right to discuss wages by saying discussion should be “discouraged”.

      Absolutely despicable in my opinion.

    8. AllAvailableLayers on

      For anyone interested, I recommend listening to the latest edition of the BBC radio show about business and management, [The Bottom Line](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002d8tj). It’s an episode all about this issue and they have various people from business talking about the pros and cons of these policies, how they’ve been tried in organisations here and in other countries, and the impacts on performance, pay gaps, retention etc.

      It’s a complicated issue, with lots of human factors at play; who are the kind of people that are motivated more or less by pay, what is ‘value’ to an organisation, the system being vulnerable to rewarding those who are ‘pushy’ rather than good, and the way that putting aside harsh business logic, things can **feel** awkward or unfair.

    9. ash_ninetyone on

      As someone who’s been a contractor on a contract with a client under a firm, would this extend to knowing what other contractors who work with a different firm but do the same job role on the same client earn?

    10. Employer is the only one benefiting from salary secrecy change my mind

    11. regprenticer on

      Very short sighted thinking

      Wages have been stagnant since 2008. Let’s get employers legally bound to annually increase wages of the higher of either inflation or the businesses increase in year on year profit before we start tweaking wages to get everyone paid the same to the penny.

    12. adobaloba on

      I’ve never understood this equal pay push and talk about it, knowing that in every different company I’ve been, everyone was on a different salary lol

    13. Univeralise on

      I don’t like this, seems very odd that random colleagues who I don’t know well can know how much I make.

      Even when applying for jobs, typically the salary bands are online anyway. Further transparency has the potential to do more harm than good. Specifically around a toxic work environment. I know a fair few colleagues who do fuck all and are likely on more than i am.

    14. Univeralise on

      I don’t like this, seems very odd that random colleagues who I don’t know well can know how much I make.

      Even when applying for jobs, typically the salary bands are online anyway. Further transparency has the potential to do more harm than good. Specifically around a toxic work environment. I know a fair few colleagues who do fuck all and are likely on more than i am.

    15. shaun2312 on

      I can’t see this happening, however if it did, only base salary would be declared, not commission or bonuses

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