La situazione delle piccole barche peggiora, dice no 10

It’s a big problem and the solution will need patience to fix, otherwise we’ll end up with Skiver-in-Chief as PM with the party who claim the solution is simple and legal yet won’t publish their own legal advice.

Bombs land in iran. More Iranians cross channel. Simples

Whilst people believe that they can have a easier time in the UK they will keep coming, no deal the UK strikes with France will stop this.

The only way to stop this is to implement changes and rules that make coming to the UK not worth risking your life over.

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, we need to have Migrant Centres where anybody arriving illegal by any methods are sent to and can not leave until their application has been processed and accepted.

Everyone else will be sent back.

Whilst at the centre all their medical needs will be seen to and they will have a safe warm place to sleep and eat.

They don’t need anything else.

This will stop the majority of economic migrants as they will not be able to earn any money for months and they can’t just disappear.

It will have a massive impact on people taking advantage of those here illegally, Factories, Car Washers, Fast Food Take Aways, Delivery Drivers Uber Drivers etc..

This will also help reduce the strain on local councils and public services.

It is a win, win situation and also done in quite a few European Countries.

From a purely cynical point of view it is a garratueed vote winner and will pretty much put an end to Reform.

Labour desperately need to grow a set of balls and announce the building of Migrant Centres.

If we end up at war with someone, are we still going to allow potential enemies in via this route?

An interesting thing is typically the differences on how the French process goes compared to the UK.
This is going to be a wall of text but I’m just comparing the two and you’ll see why it’s rising.

For example, France demand more documentation early on in the process and when asked for documents and evidence to provide, the UK is a lot longer and provides more time. Typically financial support is more limited and they can house people in shared centers outside of cities compared to the UK offerings. Even then, demand exceeds supply so they end up sleeping rough in camps which police dismantle (does anyone recall the Jungle in Calais).

In the UK, you can apply for ILR after 5 years of being a refugee and then naturalise a year after. This is on the condition you are good of character, no serious convictions and life in the UK test.

France is 5 years of regular residence too. They have the caveat though that you must demonstrate assimilation; spoken French , written French, French history, culture and values. Ontop of this they must show employment records, financial stability and a clean criminal record. It can take two years or so to get it. But it can be blocked on by local prefectures on subjective criteria.

On paper it looks similar, but in practice in France you’ll likely see delays , cultural and language hurdles along with subjective decisions made.

Let’s not just forget the rejection rates

France: 60-70%

https://ecre.org/aida-country-report-on-france-2023-update/

UK: 40-50% (in 2023, which was the above source for France it was 33%)

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2024/how-many-people-are-granted-asylum-in-the-uk

The year before it was 33%; it’ll take time to propagate as it becomes stricter but It’s pretty obvious why people would cross, if we continue to use the proverbial carrot compared the French stick; we can assume it will continue.

“Smashing the gangs” isn’t really going to do much; it’s akin to the war on drugs. If there are people who a product the market will find away.

I’m not saying the French system is superior to ours in anyway, I just don’t thing there is any easy answer at all to this and only difficult decisions forward. The reality is France is a lot tougher on migrants and they still have similar issues to us, no wonder they don’t stop the boats; why would they? Would we?

It will continue to get worse until govt accepts that very unsavoury actions must be taken to stop it.

The navy patrolling the coast has got to be far cheaper than paying for them to live here for free.

Just asking for a catch and release program not breaking human rights. A processing centre at the coast, feed them a meal, give them a bed for the night, give them the correct visa/asylum documentation then send them back to France.

It’s more than the countries they’re from would ever give us.

These people want to enter this country. Previously, they were jumping on the backs of lorries to hitch a ride across. That was clamped down on. Now they’re using the far more dangerous small boat method.

Clamping down on a specific mechanism of travel without addressing the motivation will not work. Either you’ve got to make it so that none of these people want to come here (without violating domestic or international law), or you’ve got to provide a safe alternative method to cross the channel. Anything else will guarantee this issue persists, albeit in a different form.

Fucking hell, seriously? Why are half of the UK legacy media’s posting about fucking boats? Like they want to fuel closet racists and get reform in power? How on earth would that benefit them or anyone in this country?

Boats coming over aren’t the problem… Shitty fear mongering, Brexit fueling, fuckwit legacy media is.
Whilst they get to push the agenda, us seemingly dim Brits will sadly lap it up.

What pisses me off is that UK is just letting itself get fucked like this.

Starmer needs to take potentially brutal action otherwise Reform will win and our democracy is in peril.

Do illegal immigrants actually get benefits? As someone who doesn’t get benefits I am naive – but I’d have thought you’d need a permanent address and/or a national insurance number?

People of the UK have had enough. The Tories failed to deal with this problem and Labour are also failing. If there was a GE tomorrow, Reform would get in because they are the only party willing to leave the HRC so we can immediately deport anyone who arrives here

Get the French, who are being paid by US, to do the job they are being paid and not do their usual retreating and reneging on their responsibilities!