The Spanish government has said that the national grid operator and private power generation companies were to blame for an energy blackout that caused widespread chaos in Spain and Portugal earlier this year.
Shortly after midday on 28 April, both countries were disconnected from the European electricity grid for several hours. Businesses, schools, universities, government buildings and transport hubs were all left without power and traffic light outages caused gridlocks.
While schoolchildren, students and workers were sent home for the day, many other people were stuck in lifts or stranded on trains in isolated rural areas.
In the immediate aftermath, the left-wing coalition government did not provide an explanation, instead calling for patience as it investigated.
ce_km_r_eng on
OK, they say that the issue was not with the renewables, though the issues being blamed sound like caused by renewables.
krazydude22 on
>She said the partly state-owned grid operator, Red Eléctrica, had miscalculated the power capacity needs for that day, explaining that the “system did not have enough dynamic voltage capacity”.
>”Generation firms which were supposed to control voltage and which, in addition, were paid to do just that did not absorb all the voltage they were supposed to when tension was high,” she said, without naming any of the companies responsible.
So a gap in comms between grid operator and generators
Sium4443 on
In 2025 no first world countries should have blackout happening without external causes
AnythingOk1276 on
But r/europe experts said that Russia was responsible for blackout
navetzz on
Yeah, who would have thought that privatizing highly strategic sectors such as energy was not a good idea…
BergderZwerg on
Great comprehensive in depht video with an english audiotrack (for non German speakers): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF5rHr0qapg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF5rHr0qapg)
For German speakers, a shorter video with great sources (including the video above): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOLflV04h8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOLflV04h8E)
WinterRespect1579 on
Kk
Estalxile on
The political situation in Spain is tense, there are a lot of corruption undergoing and undermining the government in place.
The actual party in power is against nuclear and promotes almost exclusively wind and solar energy. The epicenter of the blackout is in an area of solar and wind energy.
Linking those points, the governement would never release a document stating the issue would come from them, there is too much money at stake so instead of forcing the electric companies to release proofs they decided to share the blame and focus on the national grid company.
Note that couple of days prior various electrical company CEO stated that Spain should prolong the maintenance of their 2 nuclear power plant.
Background-Yellow421 on
I read this theory a few days after blackout.
ledow on
It’s almost like private profit-making enterprise and lack of effective regulation could be a problem for nationwide critical utilities.
Nobody, anywhere, ever, in the last 100 years, has ever thought that, apparently. Gosh.
Hold on a mo, I just have to take delivery of an atmospheric water generator and some more solar panels, because I’ve been telling Thames Water and the energy companies to feck off for the last few years, having wanted to do so for decades, and they crossed the line long ago.
Nationalise infrastructure, and stop just throwing money to private companies to try to cling onto those things which you privatised decades ago and have been going downhill ever since, and for which you absolutely gutted regulation for the sake of profit (and even, in some cases, personal profit for the politicians involved).
HumaDracobane on
The govern blames the grid regulator which is a private firm, REE, and the grid regulator blames the private generation companies while the generation companies blame the regulator.
It is the classic hot-pottato situation because the insurances of those companies will have to face A LOT of money. They probably would have to spend more money than what they made with the annual fee.
Southern-Still-666 on
Ah the old good finger pointing. In that is Sanchez really the master.
Hot-Impact-5860 on
Wasn’t it just sun flares hitting only Spain for some reason?
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~~Good for them, now where is the article?~~
Edit: there is now a link to the article: [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62d8k8edgxo](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62d8k8edgxo)
What happened was criminal, somebody should be accounted for this.
This is not the bottom line of the investigation tho. They still need to find how it’s France’s fault.
article:
[https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62d8k8edgxo](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62d8k8edgxo)
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I Googled the article (or one with the same title): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62d8k8edgxo
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The Spanish government has said that the national grid operator and private power generation companies were to blame for an energy blackout that caused widespread chaos in Spain and Portugal earlier this year.
Shortly after midday on 28 April, both countries were disconnected from the European electricity grid for several hours. Businesses, schools, universities, government buildings and transport hubs were all left without power and traffic light outages caused gridlocks.
While schoolchildren, students and workers were sent home for the day, many other people were stuck in lifts or stranded on trains in isolated rural areas.
In the immediate aftermath, the left-wing coalition government did not provide an explanation, instead calling for patience as it investigated.
OK, they say that the issue was not with the renewables, though the issues being blamed sound like caused by renewables.
>She said the partly state-owned grid operator, Red Eléctrica, had miscalculated the power capacity needs for that day, explaining that the “system did not have enough dynamic voltage capacity”.
>”Generation firms which were supposed to control voltage and which, in addition, were paid to do just that did not absorb all the voltage they were supposed to when tension was high,” she said, without naming any of the companies responsible.
So a gap in comms between grid operator and generators
In 2025 no first world countries should have blackout happening without external causes
But r/europe experts said that Russia was responsible for blackout
Yeah, who would have thought that privatizing highly strategic sectors such as energy was not a good idea…
Great comprehensive in depht video with an english audiotrack (for non German speakers): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF5rHr0qapg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF5rHr0qapg)
For German speakers, a shorter video with great sources (including the video above): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOLflV04h8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOLflV04h8E)
Kk
The political situation in Spain is tense, there are a lot of corruption undergoing and undermining the government in place.
The actual party in power is against nuclear and promotes almost exclusively wind and solar energy. The epicenter of the blackout is in an area of solar and wind energy.
Linking those points, the governement would never release a document stating the issue would come from them, there is too much money at stake so instead of forcing the electric companies to release proofs they decided to share the blame and focus on the national grid company.
Note that couple of days prior various electrical company CEO stated that Spain should prolong the maintenance of their 2 nuclear power plant.
I read this theory a few days after blackout.
It’s almost like private profit-making enterprise and lack of effective regulation could be a problem for nationwide critical utilities.
Nobody, anywhere, ever, in the last 100 years, has ever thought that, apparently. Gosh.
Hold on a mo, I just have to take delivery of an atmospheric water generator and some more solar panels, because I’ve been telling Thames Water and the energy companies to feck off for the last few years, having wanted to do so for decades, and they crossed the line long ago.
Nationalise infrastructure, and stop just throwing money to private companies to try to cling onto those things which you privatised decades ago and have been going downhill ever since, and for which you absolutely gutted regulation for the sake of profit (and even, in some cases, personal profit for the politicians involved).
The govern blames the grid regulator which is a private firm, REE, and the grid regulator blames the private generation companies while the generation companies blame the regulator.
It is the classic hot-pottato situation because the insurances of those companies will have to face A LOT of money. They probably would have to spend more money than what they made with the annual fee.
Ah the old good finger pointing. In that is Sanchez really the master.
Wasn’t it just sun flares hitting only Spain for some reason?
In 2025 we will have flying cars.
Meanwhile, 2025: