L’ECHR deve essere riformato per ripristinare la fiducia del pubblico “sfilacciato” – Lord Cancelliere

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/government-echr-strasbourg-lord-chancellor-justice-secretary-b2772407.html

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    1. Hanamafana on

      Systems work fine until someone finds an exploit. You then need to patch out that exploit to fix the problem.

      Its common logic for the whole world so it should be the same for law.

    2. Comfortable-Law-7147 on

      The EHRC works fine it’s just some judges interpretation of it in some cases. 

      If the government is not happy about any individual judges ruling they should ask to appeal it.

      The fact those representing the government often turn up unprepared or not at all is a bigger issue. 

      Also the ones complaining about it are the Tories, their media baron friends and the likes of Farage.  While the likes of Farage are populists so will say anything, it’s worth having a good think why the Tories and their friends don’t  like it. After all it’s better for them if we don’t have the right to protest, they can invade our privacy  and can’t join unions/campaigning groups. 

    3. Icy_Zucchini_1138 on

      The ECHR cannot be a document set in stone otherwise we are in a theocracy 

    4. FrustratedPCBuild on

      It’s absolutely fine if people take the time to actually read about what it does, and as importantly, what it doesn’t do.

    5. NowImZoe on

      Looks like we’re officially positioning to withdraw so we can finally do something about all those damn immigrants and trans people without worrying about their human rights.

    6. knitscones on

      Yes we need more laws against worker exploitation and laws that enforce tax payment by the wealthy!

    7. DukePPUk on

      Oh look, more calls to “reform” the ECHR, without specifying what they actually want to change about it, other than vague assertions of “we want to be able to break it when convenient.”

      Almost as if this is a political problem, rather than a legal one.

    8. terryjuicelawson on

      Reformed how, this never seems to be satisfactorily laid out. There are people who find cases or complain about (often poorly reported) people who apparently have been allowed to stay because of some “barmy” decision, but if you read the judgement there tends not to be a way around it. We aren’t going to deport a criminal to their death, no. As otherwise *you* could be deported to your death too, and we can’t complain if you were on death row anywhere else. As a loose example.

    9. An ECHR which ‘reforms’ to no longer protect basic human rights, as Shabana Mahmood seems to want, would no longer be fit for purpose. It feels like self-proclaimed ‘liberals’ are increasingly finding their penchant for social conservatism (whether it’s stripping rights from migrants or trans people or disabled people) is increasingly butting up against their proclaimed support for human rights, and their ‘solution’ is apparently just to reduce what ‘human rights’ actually means. Pathetic.

      > The Lord Chancellor added: “The European Convention on Human Rights is one of the great achievements of post-war politics. It has endured because it has evolved. Now, it must do so again.”

      The ECHR was one of the greatest achievements of the post-war era precisely because it universally protected the rights of all human beings. Shabana Mahmood no longer wants it to do so. I’m so tired of liberals pretending to be the defenders of the post-war consensus while eagerly tearing it down.

    10. shugthedug3 on

      My fraying of confidence in the rule of law has nothing to do with the ECHR.

      It’s all to do with politicians and the establishment, it’s all to do with how the law apparently doesn’t apply equally.

    11. ethos_required on

      Yes, the ECHR was created with great intentions but has turned into a method to effectively abuse the charitable approach it supports and subvert the rule of law (by “cancelling out” other laws on the books or simply being used to unreasonably hamstring public bodies).

    12. PurahsHero on

      Too sad that people only hear about criminals or asylum seekers using the ECHR to get out of being deported because they look after their neighbour’s third cousin’s cat or something. Rarely do they hear of the actual good cases relating to gender equality and climate action that the ECHR also rules on, which are unequivocally good.

    13. FatBobFat96 on

      Labour stealing Reform’s soiled clothes. Which is worse, a party of open fascists or a party of closet fascists?

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