Il pubblico non sostiene più la spesa, afferma il ministro
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4lygdx95vo
di cennep44
Il pubblico non sostiene più la spesa, afferma il ministro
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4lygdx95vo
di cennep44
43 commenti
I mean, I do, but charity truly does begin at home. We can’t give to others whilst we’re floundering.
Millions have been sent and there are charities in those areas yet nothing has improved- why?
Talking about it as just a blanket ‘aid’ is not useful. Trump was able to stop USAID and frame is as just cutting waste. Part of that aid was literally keeping people alive through giving them HIV/AIDS medication. People will literally die from that, and it’s not like it was responsively withdrawn over a period of time. I’m sure there is some types of aid we can justify not providing anymore but people need to remember we are the 6th richest country in the world. If you feel like we’re not, it’s not aid’s fault, maybe look at the increase in billionaires in this country instead.
Some of us do but that doesn’t mean we don’t also need public services working at home and less money wasted on consulting not building. Something is rotten in the state of British politics.
It’s early days for this post, but even a quick glance at the first comments made shows the removal of consent that the article is talking about. There are strong arguments for foreign aid and charities have a right to be concerned, but you can’t spend public money that the public doesn’t want to give.
If we can’t even maintain PIP, which subsidieses essential medicine for disabled people why the fuck would we send even a single penny elsewhere.
The public really doesn’t understand what aid spending is actually for: its projection of trade policy and foreign influence.
Perhaps if more effort was being made to explain why foreign aid isn’t just a ‘nice thing to do’ for poorer nations, but also actively helps us by increasing our soft power around the world, and makes it less likely that people want to leave their home country in search of a better life, then more folk might be in favour of it.
Instead we have the same tedious remarks about India’s space programme with no real attempt to look beyond the narrow view that it’s just us giving money away to feckless nations that we could be spending on ‘stopping the boats’.
We spent around 8 million pounds EVERY DAY on housing illegal immigrants 2023-24. That spending has increased and, if it continues to increase as predicted, that’s expected to TRIPLE in the next decade – so around 15.5 BILLION pounds per year.
Maybe start there
I get that a lot of aid is a bribe to improve relations, but it is also a luxury spend. We are no longer in a position to be giving handouts, at least not at current levels. We have far more pressing issues at home that need to be addressed, and if they are resolved, we can then consider increasing aid again in the future.
The public did back Brexit and look where that got us.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter – W. S. Churchill (probably apocryphal)
Everything in UK politics needs to become more transparent. I have no problem with money being used efficently to help.
But if we have CEO’s on 6 figure salaries and backhanders. Then they can fuck right off.
Because it’s been weaponised by certain people in politics and areas of the media again (I wonder who)
It’s not just about sending money across, it is also about helping countries when there is a disaster and providing assistance/expertise and also yes money to help with them deal with the disaster at first helping set up tents/communications/transport/logistics and emergency help in recovery etc.
If the tories hadn’t siphoned off billions in wasted and overly generous contracts, and basic infrastructure wasn’t being used as a route to make millionaire shareholders richer, and I wasn’t being rung out for every fucking last penny I have to backfill the above, then I’d be happy to give money to countries that _need_ it. _Need_ being the key word. Some of the countries we give to are absolutely justified, others…..no chance.
People support charities still.
But sending aid to other countries when this country needs as much help as it needs is something people (in general) do not want to happen.
Why waste billions over seas when we need that over here to improve things.
Maybe if this country was in a good position, aid is something we can look at in the future.
I’ve just been added to a 12 month waiting list for an NHS appointment so no, I don’t think a single penny that I’ve paid in tax should be leaving the country until we’ve sorted ourselves out domestically.
One of the biggest issues people complain about is asylum seekers. Yet people want to cut aid which will increase the number of them?
“Public **doesn’t** back aid spending” or has my brain failed me this early in the morning…
I’m entirely down for it. It’s just not the right time now.
There are too many needed systems in the UK that are falling to pieces, for us to be piping 10+ billion out of the country per year. Cut back now, stabilise, then restart once we’re in a better place… not that I honestly think any government is competent enough to action this. The extra money would buffer that incompetence somewhat though.
The charities who are outraged have their own agenda. They are an industry in themselves so of course they’re going to go on the attack,
I think part of the problem is we know we’re sending aid to countries that seem unwilling to do anything in return, like take back their criminals when they get caught.
We’re paying them aid, taking their criminals in, and then paying for them to be imprisoned over here too.
A few too many accounts of that and no wonder people start to think that UK money should go towards UK betterment.
Taxes exist to fund infrastructure like trains, schools, police, and hospitals that improve the lives of everyday Britons. This does nothing to improve the lives of British people. It’s basically legally requiring people to “donate” money. Youth crime and drug usage is a serious problem. Infrastructure isn’t great. Healthcare system is terrible. We are in no position to throw money away
The purpose of aid spending is to reduce the number of migrants, as people staying in their own countries due to aid spending, is far cheaper than the cost of migrants in the UK.
Abolish the entire budget. Charity is a matter for private donation. Additionally it is riddled with corruption and waste
Personally I’d rather we stop spending money or doing deals with other countries which ultimately help cause some of these humanitarian crises in the first place.
Nobody asked me, I’m fine with it – I think you’re only listening to the loudest mouths.
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Aid is win win. You get soft power, you improve the wealth and health of other nations and then you get to sell into those new better off markets, you get favourable trade deals and your companies may even get to mine / drill for resources.
A richer world includes a richer UK.
People often don’t know what ‘aid’ is. They’ve got this idea that we just give millions bilaterally to dictators in Africa who then siphon most of it into their overseas banks in order to live lavish lifestyles. That certainly has been a problem, and corruption is embedded in many societies (including, let’s not pretend otherwise, the UK, just it tends to be less transparent here), but what we call ‘aid’ is very broad and aid spending is much more targeted and pragmatic than it used to be. Money is much more closely tracked and projects evaluated.
What clearly is not happening effectively is communication on what aid is, how it works and what successes there have been.
If we cut foreign aid we’d likely see immigration sky rocket over the following years.
America’s foreign aid cuts are already having a massive impact on African countries.
Im all for aid. But how can you expect to help the rest of the world when your home terf is falling apart.
we could save time, effort and money by simply directly transferring our aid money to the bank accounts of the political leadership of the nations we send it to.
We should be very open about it being a bribe budget and stop coating it in humanitarian paint to safeguard it from being cut.
Giving aid to countries is one of the ways that we reduce immigration. Probably hell of a lot more effective than screaming “stop the boats”.
Foreign aid is a form of neo colonialism and inhibits development of countries that receive it, also most countries that receive it these days are doing pretty well for themselves, i know many African’s for example who grow up with more tech than most people in the UK
Why do we need to ‘support’ charities if they largely only need to provide 10% of their income to their cause.. that means 90% goes into their pockets one way or another. I understand administration and such, but that is not 90%.
People have given for years to many causes but have become reluctant to do so because of too many despots creaming the cash off to live lavish lifestyles at the expense of those the aid was aimed at. Also why do we give aid to China & India , who can afford lavish space programmes but won’t look after their poor or sick or make a better infrastructure. No , we must take care of our own & sort out our problems before attempting to solve the world’s ills.
I do, but I think there needs to be a review on actually where it is spent and distributed
Yeah great idea let’s all cut aid and get malaria and all these fancy illnesses back round, it shall serve us greatly when they are then brought back here with people travelling.
As usual, they get to put poor people against each other while corporations and billionaires get discounts or free stuff.
For example, you know how we are told there isn’t enough water and we should ration it and not be allowed to use it as much?
Do you know how many BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF LITERS we give for free to Coca Cola?
Why?!!!!
Have you considered *making the case* for aid spending? Talking about the lives we’re saving, or the potential global benefits of, say, eliminating TB entirely?
Infuriating. The cost-benefit of some aid spending is *insane,* but because of the lack of leadership & nuance we’re unable to defend the parts that are worth continuing.
I think the public are supportive of aid spending. Only, the public are astonished and pissed off that aid is spent in the way it is – very badly and deigned to enrich corrupt people and middlemen.
If the public don’t support aid spending its in part due to governments being awful at explaining the purpose.
Aid isn’t charity, aid is an important geopolitical tool – because we are a wealthy country we have the capacity to use that wealth to try and create a more stable world, and use aid to promote things like the rule of law, democracy, human rights, access to Healthcare etc. around the world. This isn’t an act of charity, it makes us more safe and less likely to suffer from terrorism, belligerent states, global pandemics and many other threats.
Where internatiinal aid falls, other spending will have to rise in its place – but it will be military spending, Healthcare spending, spending on diplomacy etc. etc.
There is less need for aid. Many “developing” countries are much better off than they were decades ago and it is absurd for the UK to be funding things they could choose to fund themselves. Most countries have huge armed forces for example. India, China and Pakistan have nuclear arsenals. Other countries are allowing western taxpayers to fund welfare services while they waste their own money on luxuries and white elephant projects. Aid spending that is paying British aid workers overseas on lucrative expatriate packages is wasteful and more an elaborate welfare system for these people than genuine aid. Once the aid industry is established and people rely on it for their income it becomes never ending as these people have an interest in perpetual aid spending.
Too many people in this country (UK) need help before we worry about others who probably see very litlle of it anyway