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    I ministri stanno valutando segretamente il test di test, ammette DWP, nonostante l’impegno in carta verde

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    1. Kind-County9767 on

      It’s either that, cut the amount everyone gets, or tighten the requirements. More than doubling the number of people in receipt in 7 years is not sustainable given how stretched all our finances already are.

    2. Voodoopulse on

      Why would this be a bad thing? If people can afford to do without it then why should they get it?

    3. Due-Tell1522 on

      There are staggering amounts of benefit fraud that will only continue to balloon with over a million illegal migrants getting handed lifetime benefits like there’s no tomorrow

    4. jmeade90 on

      I do think it’s important to remember that “considering” in Government can also mean “getting evidence that it would be a friggin’ daft thing to do, or to confirm the supposition that the green paper is correct,” which is an important distinction.

    5. Few-Role-4568 on

      This is all part of the plan.

      Cut PIP, reduce benefits and then you’ll have the choice of a terrible existence or state provided death through the new assisted dying legislation.

    6. Mail-Malone on

      Well the news to me there is that I presumed it was already means-tested.

    7. 00DEADBEEF on

      The whole point of PIP is so disabled people aren’t disadvantaged by the costs they face, that’s why it’s not means-tested.

    8. thetossfromanon on

      I have an anecdote to explain why this is a spooky prospect.

      A friend of mine recently attained PIP and has received their first couple of payments. They also work approximately 30 hours a week in a retail environment. I think it’s minimum wage, or just above.

      Yes, technically, they can afford rent and groceries on their pay. However, the PIP funds have enabled them to buy accessibility aids for their rented accommodation; a better bed with structural support, furniture to support their needs, and other things to make them not struggle day to day like handrails and equipment.

      Broadly, PIP is incredibly difficult to get approved already, with a lot of loops to jump through. The extra income for someone who is disabled and working can be life changing – I’ve seen it.

      Means testing needs to be cautious. I’m not an expert and can only offer my lived experience, but what I’ve seen makes me worried that the more cynical of us don’t view financial support as anything beyond the absolute bare minimum. The idea of my friend living without PIP means that they’ll afford that minimum, but will spend their time in pain, fatigue, and depression in a market and financial environment that won’t enable them to lift themselves out of it alone.

      I know it feels almost sacrilegious to say in the current times, but I’d much rather we as a country were aspirationally aiming to uplift and support, not punch down and pinch nickels while wealth inequality widens.

    9. GuyLookingForPorn on

      We should means test all cash payouts, governments money should be for those who actually need it, it makes no sense to direct limited resources to the wealthy. 

    10. winmace on

      I look forward to them introducing means testing for pensions next

    11. Internetolocutor on

      It’s got to be more difficult to get pip. I know people who claim to have problems and they’re fine. It’s just a lot of money to get job seeker and pip which could total well over 1k and even 2k if you’re alternative is a low paying, stressful job

    12. ClacksInTheSky on

      Rosie Jones, the comedian with her own Sitcom, was mentioning her PIP will be cut.

      She’s a successful comedian who probably makes more than the average person… Does she _need_ PIP?

    13. pokemon-player on

      Somebody with a lot of money hires an accountant. That accountant will know of several ways to make the most of that person’s money. In fact the better the accountant the more they can ‘save’ the client.

      A disabled person goes to a benefits advisor and is told what benefits they are entitled too but this is seen as scrounging.

      Now what pisses me off is that the person with a lot of money gets an accountant and a benefits advisor. Means testing it to me sounds like a good idea. Of course that doesn’t mean it will be without problems but the system as it stands is far from perfect.

    14. misspixal4688 on

      People often don’t understand that living with a disability comes with extra costs. Take two people earning £4,000 a month—one disabled, one not. The non-disabled person can save for a house, go on holiday, and enjoy their income. But the disabled person might have to spend £1,000 or more of that same wage just to manage a condition they never asked for. How is that fair? It’s not.

      Whether we can afford to support disabled people properly, I honestly don’t know—politicians lie so much, it’s hard to tell. But I believe we could make different choices, save money elsewhere, and invest in giving disabled people dignity and a decent quality of life. Sadly, this country seems stuck in a stingy, Scrooge-like mindset when it comes to supporting its most vulnerable.

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