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    1. corbynista2029 on

      TLDR: The ruling only touched on the Equality Act, not every legislation in the statute book. Provision of toilets in workplaces is governed by Workplace Regulation 1992, not the Equality Act. EHRC went beyond the remit of the ruling and said that it covers toilets in workplaces too. This has now been reversed so any workplace that bans trans people from their toilets may face legal action.

    2. 99thLuftballon on

      I didn’t understand that at all. What happened and what changed?

    3. LunarKurai on

      Almost like they charged in above what the ruling would allow because they had some kind of prejudice or something..

      Now watch this get 1% of the coverage and attention the bans did.

    4. Longjumping_Stand889 on

      I said when they issued the guidance they were being stupid and it would have to change. Now I can bask in the afterglow of being right on the internet.

    5. AdRealistic4984 on

      Again, Falkner is a LIZ TRUSS APPOINTEE. Why presume fluency and competency just because it’s a Quango

    6. brooooooooooooke on

      >The guidance now states: “In relation to workplaces, requirements are set out in the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992. These require suitable and sufficient facilities to be provided including toilets and sometimes changing facilities and showers.

      >“Toilets, showers and changing facilities may be mixed-sex where they are in a separate room lockable from the inside. Where changing facilities are required under the regulations, and where it is necessary for reasons of propriety, there must be separate facilities for men and women or separate use of those facilities such as separate lockable rooms.”

      This isn’t exactly a massive victory; essentially having fully enclosed toilets/washing facilities is sufficient without needing extra trans-exclusionary bathrooms.

      Your average toilets (rows of cubicles/urinals with separate sinks) still appear to be excluding transgender people.

    7. Safe-Hair-7688 on

      Meanwhile J K Rowling and her anti Trans lot, want you start taking pictures of anyone you don’t consider to be the right gender, including kids in bathrooms. I mean not creepy at all right….J K friend just look it up, Nicola Murray (convicted Pedo) and that lot are really start show there colours here.

      J K says its ok to take pictures of people in bathroom, no matter who they are. That’s right, they want people to start taking pictures of children in bathrooms…….

    8. talesofcrouchandegg on

      I don’t have particular radical views on this, I’m very much the ‘centrist dad’ on this argument who wants to balance rights. The legal guidance is utterly baffling and impossible for me to act on.

      1. ‘Women are defined purely by their genitals. You can’t just go off how they present, that would be Gender Politics etc’

      2. I don’t see people’s genitals at work.

      3. If actually I should be going off presentation and whether someone doesn’t ‘look’ female, this totally defeats point 1.

      4. ……….?

    9. John_Williams_1977 on

      I don’t understand this debate – because who is the debate with?

      Voters don’t want trans-rights expanded and polling shows voters becoming more opposed, not less. 

      So this is just shouting at…who? Who is still listening? The growing number of Reform voters?

    10. Thatweasel on

      Suprise, it’s almost like everyone saw this coming.

      A huge, sweeping ruling and guidance with dramatically outsized impact that will likely be walked back bit by bit to some hyper specific application after the damage has already been done.

    11. The shopping centre near where I work has its toilets set up as a row of lockable cubicles either side of a central corridor. Every cubicle has all necessary facilities inside so anyone can use any cubicle in complete privacy.

      Seems like a perfectly good solution to me. Completely gender neutral and no-one has any risk of being bothered at an inconvenient moment.

    12. PublicStructure7091 on

      They haven’t though, this is just Maugham acting like he’s scored some kind of victory (which I guess is necessary when actual victories for the GLP are few and far between)

      All the EHRC did was clarify that it’s lawful for businesses to have mixed sex single use facilities, provided they’re enclosed. Which was always the case, to make it easier for small businesses

    13. This is why you don’t let rich people, under bad faith, challenge a single piece of legislation that’s highly interlinked with others. It requires an in-depth all encompassing review of all legislation mentioning gender and sex.

    14. ohbroth3r on

      Can’t be bothered to read all shit shit.

      Al I know is, my toilet at home is unisex.

      And if I go to a small garage, it’s a single unisex toilet.

      And did you know it’s illegal to smoke in a work van? Guess what. People be smoking next to each other in work vans.

      I love a rule. I love to stick to rules, it’s good for civilised society.
      But not everything has to be debated over and over.

    15. TurnLooseTheKitties on

      I can perceive this ongoing issue will be the tool that forces upon us the ‘ can I see your papers please ‘ national identity card

    16. DeadMansBoots on

      The ECHR appear to be intentionally undermining European countries own decisions. Piss off ECHR, we don’t want or care about your rulings anymore.

    17. WatermelonCandy5nsfw on

      Cis people we need you to please do something. Come to our protests, speak out

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