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    Costo per avere la priorità sull’estetica nei futuri progetti di infrastrutture statali

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    1. Alastor001 on

      Guess it took a bit of research to find out that a genital shaped hospital may not be the best value for money after all

    3. HighDeltaVee on

      It wasn’t design or aesthetics which caused the cost overruns : it was starting construction without a finalised design and then making endless revisions, coupled with a complete failure to ridiculous change request quotes from the contractor properly audited.

    4. CurrencyDesperate286 on

      In fairness, I think aesthetics should be a *consideration*. But that has to be as part of a combined consideration – you can’t pick a design that will make everything way more complicated/expensive without factoring that in.

    5. YoIronFistBro on

      Even though our current obsession with cost is part of why we’re in this mess in the first place?

    6. GerKoll on

      Can we not go from one extreme to the other please?

      A hospital needs to be functional and build to last a couple decades, no need to make the best looking (and most expensive) one in Europe.

      A new plaza is for people to enjoy, aesthetics and safety are certainly more important than cost.

    8. Hiro_the_Bladeknight on

      Bullshit. Aesthetics are important in all civic infrastructure projects. They are
      Important because people will be looking at whatever gets built for along time, and nobody wants to look at featureless soviet style depression in architectural form.

      This is just ass covering for the absolute lack of project planning skills in place for large Infra projects and the resulting cost overruns.

    9. RobotIcHead on

      Ha, all the ascetics stuff is help to get it through the planning process (especially in middle class areas) and to get approval from politicians. The children’s hospital is a fuck up on many levels while I do think that there is problems with people getting distracted by concept art and ignoring fundamental issues, it is an issue across society rather that our politicians and senior civil servants are not good enough to spot the issues.

    11. gmankev on

      This is abred herring for more civil service waste….Watch the architects just transform aestetheics into environmental or local concern issues…

      How.about keep an eye on costs, be rhe aestethic or not….

    12. ToothpickSham on

      From the country that gave the world the national monument known as the spire…. a bit rich

    15. Amckinstry on

      “Aesthetics and design guidelines” : for me the second bit is probably more important.
      For example the M17/18 Galway-Tuam. Beautiful road but gold plated.
      Built with very high quality materials capable of handling traffic levels the road is never expected to reach in its lifetime. It could have been built with recycled build waste for a fraction of the cost.

    16. CascaydeWave on

      In my opinion the issue is not that the aesthetic elements of projects causing delays, it is the people who object on the basis that any project would ruin the “aesthetic quality/heritage” of their particular area.

      (Ignore the fact that for half of Dublin this area was fields 50 years ago.)

    17. keanehoodies on

      Can someone with better knowledge tell me what we dont have a state run construction company? The state is always building something. Why are we asking the private sector to invariably up their prices when the state can do it themselevs?

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