Keir Starmer ha un problema: la sinistra si organizza
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/06/keir-starmer-has-a-problem-the-left-are-organising
di JayR_97
Keir Starmer ha un problema: la sinistra si organizza
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/06/keir-starmer-has-a-problem-the-left-are-organising
di JayR_97
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The left needs to go back to the 1970s and leave the rest of us alone.
They just slept to allow Labour win. Now that Labour is in they can try push Government into the hard left.
This reads a bit like someone telling you “oh bad news, you’ve left the milk out of the fridge” while your house is on fire.
The biggest problem the Labour government have is the rise of Reform, they are getting more headlines and support each day and the clock is ticking to ensure Labour are electable again by the next election.
The problem the Left always had is factional infighting. It organizes to do something pretty soon one group falls out with another either splits or massive infighting begins either way it all falls apart. There is a period of relative calm then the circle starts again.
Are the greens left-wing? Don’t they support capitalism?
The left haven’t got a chance as too many of them are pro immigration/asylum, which is the biggest voter issue at the moment.
It could spell big trouble of the radical far left get together
😂 I think Starmer has significantly more problems than this.
If there was a credible Left party with a credible manifesto that could get people on board and didn’t devolve into purity battles or ‘I dunno, raise taxes and shit?’ I would vote the fuck out of that. Sadly I’ve been waiting many years and I’ve little hope.
Is this literally not just democracy in action?
Kier puts forward his plans, our MPs say it doesn’t align with our wants, they vote against it, he changes it to tie better with MP wants, they vote again etc.
The idea that he’s “losing face” and being embarrassed I just do not see. One of the worst things about the Tories were their blank thoughtless faces as they all voted like robots for whatever boris said. At least labour are comfortable fighting for what they want even if it goes against the figurehead of the party?
No you twats the UK has a problem, the left is so fucking obsessed with being right and morally pure they’ll fight amongst themselves and let Farage win.
Look at how spilt the centre and left of centre vote is already, Labour, LibDem, Green, SNP, Plaid… Look at the US where parts of the left cared more about what is going on in Palestine than their own country and helped Trump win!?!
> the left is organising
That’d be a fuckin’ first.
Honestly at this stage the Green Party are significantly more left wing than Labour are. It has to be time that if the right has Reform, the left should go to Green.
Labour has the problem that they are allowing reform to and right wing press to drive the narrative. If they pander to the right they will alienate their core voters and chasing voters who willl never vote for them.
It is easy to tell lies and come up with simple solutions to compex problems. See how that’s working out in the states.
The biggest problem from what I hear is that the people behind project 2025 are now looking to put serious money into reform in exchange for the opportunity to write British laws and that people don’t realise what a bunch of crooks reform are
Historically “the left organising” has precisely 2 possible outcomes:
1. Nothing happens.
2. Their home country collapses.
Thankfully Corbyn is too incompetent for 2.
It’s yet another Corbyn reboot and a guy that thinks he can grow your boobs with hypnosis.
Starmer’s got problems but it’s not this circus.
It doesn’t matter what the left does, they’re dying and will need to reincarnate into the old left that cared above all about the working class. Any pro migrant pro multiculturalism left will not survive for much longer
The Left have been “organising” ever since the days of Harold Wilson and yet have never managed to get organised.
Reform voters are boomers who took everything they could get their hands on and contributed absolutely nothing to the country. They hate younger generations, telling us the reason we can’t afford to buy a house is because we’re eating avocado toast and drinking chai lattes, completely ignoring the fact that they paid five grand for their first house which now costs a million. They hate ethnic minorities because they’re “claiming benefits and clogging up the NHS”, again ignoring the fact they need them to pay their pension and wipe their arse.
It’s really sad that the children of the greatest generation fucked this country over and blame everyone else for the mess they made.
What an utter crock of shit… The left are not organising. You tell me the last time a truly “left” party won a GE.
Labour under Blair were not “left”, Starmer is definitely not “left”
The last true “left” party that won was Wilson in 1974 .
The UK at its core is a centralist country and history has consistently shown us this. A truly left party will never win a GE election because they will inevitable fight each other. They can’t help themselves.
They have shown time and again that you don’t need to do or say anything, just sit back and watch them self destruct.
All that is happening right now is what has been happening over the past decade. MP’s look at what is popular and back that.
If a policy looks like a dumpster fire then they will abandon it with a fan fair so they look like they give a shit when they actually couldn’t give a shit.
The vast majority of MP’s today have no backbone, they have no ideals, they just have have one goal, do and say whatever they believe will make the popular.
so the economys about to collapse in 10 years great
Is it organising? Lol
When a small rebellion forces the leadership to backtrack on some of their most promising campaign promises, it looks more like chaos to me.
The only organising the left can do is infighting, factionalism and tone policing each other through a fight to the death of who is morally superior.
Oh great. Let’s swing back to 2017 again with completely detached from reality politics that ends with centre right government.
Starmer’s problem was misjudging the platform he was standing on. Nobody voted for “Tories but less completely incompetent”. Not being crayon eating stupid was the bare minimum I expected from Labour.
Basically Labour had to crack down on immigration as I don’t think anyone sees the Boris open borders as sustainable.
However completely abandoning everything Corbyn was standing for was just arson. The public rejected doing thousands of things, that individually polled well, all at once. The public can tell the difference between a sensible balance in private and national interests and running a not so quiet socialist revolution. Probably the best thing Labour have done so far is actually move in to save the steel furnaces in Scunthorpe. They seem almost embarrassed by the measure, they should be shouting about it as often as they can.
Some public leadership on water would do them a lot of good. Admittedly I don’t know a good way to “win” that one because the Tories fucked the country so hard we’ll never be the same again. There is no easy solution. It would be nice to hear our leaders are on the same page about how the status quo is not acceptable and not something that can be fudged with further subsidies.
The issue is they didn’t do the work. They just tried to ram it through. They cornered themselves with stupid fiscal and tax constraints pre-election, then tried to put through the winter fuel change using a much too low cut off without publishing the working and got it through until the policy collapsed on the obvious pitfalls, they’ve now tried to ram this benefit change again trying to hide the numbers and enough of their MPs aren’t buying it