In the same country where an online joke in (very) poor taste can land you in prison. And no, I’m not talking about *her*
haphazard_chore on
Why did Lucy get 30 odd months but this guy gets nothing?
denyer-no1-fan on
>A range of offences were considered as part of the investigation. However, given the time elapsed between the events in the video and the video being brought to police attention, any potential summary only offences were beyond the statutory time limit for prosecution.
TLDR: probably because their words didn’t incite any actual violence, so the actual impact of their words is minimal
Neat_Owl_807 on
Can’t fathom this. Their lack of balls in rightfully prosecuting hate crime here will just lead to the right pushing two-tier justice rhetoric and it is hard to argue otherwise.
We will end up with Reform in power and will deserve the consequences. Why public bodies cannot show more strength and avoid this mess?
Spindelhalla_xb on
Kill your Kneecap? I’ll probably get locked up now though.
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GiftedGeordie on
I can’t stand Kneecap and they’ve done some shit that I think is uncalled for to say the very least, but saying something stupid like this isn’t terrorism. If we start arresting people for terrorism charges just for saying something that we don’t like, then that’s a slippery slope and it’s insane that people don’t realise how quickly that would lead to authoritarianism.
Then again, people would apparently happily sign away their rights to free speech and to criticise the government as long as it harms the people that they hate.
ArcticAlmond on
Literally how? I mean, I think that our free speech laws are a bad joke in this country, but how did this not not qualify as a call to violence. There are people in prison today that said less than this. How have they not been prosecuted?
Longjumping_Stand889 on
And just like that, no one ever spoke of them again.
No but seriously, it’s been way overblown.
KeysomeChem on
People have been put in prison for placing stickers, hateful tweets (which were deleted), and messages in private group chats. But this gets a pass?
warsongN17 on
Hahahaha, done nothing but boost their profile massively, who could have seen this coming?
The funniest thing is this was ages ago and no one cared, it wasn’t done by them recently to drum up some controversy for exposure. It was only dragged up after their comments against Israel at Coachella to try and silence that criticism and has instead backfired massively.
homeworkrules69 on
“However, given the time elapsed between the events in the video and the video being brought to police attention, any potential summary only offences were beyond the statutory time limit for prosecution.”
So if a Jihadist Imam has a video surface a few years after he made it calling for death and destruction in the UK he’s fine as long as you can’t draw a straight line between his words and actual violence? Just trying to update my policing tier list to see if Irish Republicans are above or below Muslims.
Zeal0tElite on
This country is so fucking funny.
All that bluff and bluster for literally nothing.
Like a state mandated finger-wagging.
PooeyArseMan on
Is this that two tier policing I hear so much about?
silenceisgold3n on
But post rap lyrics verbatim with the n word in them, and it’s fine time…
ElCaminoInTheWest on
The chances of achieving an actual conviction were slim to none. And it would be a judicial shitshow, the usual “establishment vs the wee guy” tale.
Hopefully at least it makes people think twice about who they’re tacitly or overtly expressing support for.
blindlemonjeff2 on
Ah sweet sweet consistency of application of the law. /s
Vdubnub88 on
Remember people went to prison for typing hurty words on the internet. This guy openly shouted vile stuff to crowds of people, which incites violence and hatred. Yet he wont be prosecuted. Prime example of two tier justice system
nothatscool on
Insane speech law’s inevitably lead to selective enforcement with only political dissidents being prosecuted.
Goody090 on
I do not mind what the rules are as long as they are clear. I just want to make sure I understand what the rules are that are being set here. It is legal for me to promote the idea to a live audience that they should kill their MP?
So I would like to announce that people in the Islington North constituency should kill their local MP!
ignore_my_name on
Was replying to some who seem so scared of a republican group who wants “Brits out” but they deleted their comment before I sent my reply, so here it is anyway.
Their song get your Brits out is a joke song about taking MPs from the DUP on a night out.
They have said time and time again that they love English people, including on stage at Glastonbury yesterday, but they hate the government.
They had an English rapper on stage with them, half the songs they performed were produced by an Englishman. They had a Loyalist Protestant rapper opening for them at their gigs in Ireland. They donate money to cross community initiatives and directly to protestant youth groups in northern Ireland, including the money they took the government to court over.
Their movie is literally about them coming into conflict with a republican paramilitary group, one of them dating a loyalist girl who’s mother is in the PSNI and how the young people of northern Ireland from both sides are basically just all going to raves together now.
Stop thinking of a republican group being some bogeyman who want to bomb London. They hate the government, not you.
Parking-Tip1685 on
They’re literally begging to be arrested and if they are they’ll milk the hell out of it. It’d be far easier to just revoke the licence for live music at Glastonbury.
LawfulnessDry2214 on
Its crazy how this isn’t arrestable offence but I poop joke might be online
amytee252 on
When Kier Starmer came out saying it was inappropriate for Kneecap to play Glastonbury, I was a bit surprised. They had not been convicted of a crime here.
What we do have though, is Chris Brown playing Stadiums (he played Tottenham stadium recently), when he shouldn’t even be allowed in the country! Didn’t see Starmer saying anything there. Guess he was jumping on the bandwagon too.
Marconi7 on
No two-tier justice in the UK of course, look away now..
Loreki on
Good call. They only get attention because of their deliberately created controversies. If UK authorities as a whole just ignore them, they’ll be washed up and performing at Butlins by summer 2026.
ClockOwn6363 on
As long as they don’t write it on social media they won’t prosected… 🤪
TheGreatLordVader on
If they go after them, I hope we flood the streets
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In the same country where an online joke in (very) poor taste can land you in prison. And no, I’m not talking about *her*
Why did Lucy get 30 odd months but this guy gets nothing?
>A range of offences were considered as part of the investigation. However, given the time elapsed between the events in the video and the video being brought to police attention, any potential summary only offences were beyond the statutory time limit for prosecution.
TLDR: probably because their words didn’t incite any actual violence, so the actual impact of their words is minimal
Can’t fathom this. Their lack of balls in rightfully prosecuting hate crime here will just lead to the right pushing two-tier justice rhetoric and it is hard to argue otherwise.
We will end up with Reform in power and will deserve the consequences. Why public bodies cannot show more strength and avoid this mess?
Kill your Kneecap? I’ll probably get locked up now though.
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I can’t stand Kneecap and they’ve done some shit that I think is uncalled for to say the very least, but saying something stupid like this isn’t terrorism. If we start arresting people for terrorism charges just for saying something that we don’t like, then that’s a slippery slope and it’s insane that people don’t realise how quickly that would lead to authoritarianism.
Then again, people would apparently happily sign away their rights to free speech and to criticise the government as long as it harms the people that they hate.
Literally how? I mean, I think that our free speech laws are a bad joke in this country, but how did this not not qualify as a call to violence. There are people in prison today that said less than this. How have they not been prosecuted?
And just like that, no one ever spoke of them again.
No but seriously, it’s been way overblown.
People have been put in prison for placing stickers, hateful tweets (which were deleted), and messages in private group chats. But this gets a pass?
Hahahaha, done nothing but boost their profile massively, who could have seen this coming?
The funniest thing is this was ages ago and no one cared, it wasn’t done by them recently to drum up some controversy for exposure. It was only dragged up after their comments against Israel at Coachella to try and silence that criticism and has instead backfired massively.
“However, given the time elapsed between the events in the video and the video being brought to police attention, any potential summary only offences were beyond the statutory time limit for prosecution.”
So if a Jihadist Imam has a video surface a few years after he made it calling for death and destruction in the UK he’s fine as long as you can’t draw a straight line between his words and actual violence? Just trying to update my policing tier list to see if Irish Republicans are above or below Muslims.
This country is so fucking funny.
All that bluff and bluster for literally nothing.
Like a state mandated finger-wagging.
Is this that two tier policing I hear so much about?
But post rap lyrics verbatim with the n word in them, and it’s fine time…
The chances of achieving an actual conviction were slim to none. And it would be a judicial shitshow, the usual “establishment vs the wee guy” tale.
Hopefully at least it makes people think twice about who they’re tacitly or overtly expressing support for.
Ah sweet sweet consistency of application of the law. /s
Remember people went to prison for typing hurty words on the internet. This guy openly shouted vile stuff to crowds of people, which incites violence and hatred. Yet he wont be prosecuted. Prime example of two tier justice system
Insane speech law’s inevitably lead to selective enforcement with only political dissidents being prosecuted.
I do not mind what the rules are as long as they are clear. I just want to make sure I understand what the rules are that are being set here. It is legal for me to promote the idea to a live audience that they should kill their MP?
So I would like to announce that people in the Islington North constituency should kill their local MP!
Was replying to some who seem so scared of a republican group who wants “Brits out” but they deleted their comment before I sent my reply, so here it is anyway.
Their song get your Brits out is a joke song about taking MPs from the DUP on a night out.
They have said time and time again that they love English people, including on stage at Glastonbury yesterday, but they hate the government.
They had an English rapper on stage with them, half the songs they performed were produced by an Englishman. They had a Loyalist Protestant rapper opening for them at their gigs in Ireland. They donate money to cross community initiatives and directly to protestant youth groups in northern Ireland, including the money they took the government to court over.
Their movie is literally about them coming into conflict with a republican paramilitary group, one of them dating a loyalist girl who’s mother is in the PSNI and how the young people of northern Ireland from both sides are basically just all going to raves together now.
Stop thinking of a republican group being some bogeyman who want to bomb London. They hate the government, not you.
They’re literally begging to be arrested and if they are they’ll milk the hell out of it. It’d be far easier to just revoke the licence for live music at Glastonbury.
Its crazy how this isn’t arrestable offence but I poop joke might be online
When Kier Starmer came out saying it was inappropriate for Kneecap to play Glastonbury, I was a bit surprised. They had not been convicted of a crime here.
What we do have though, is Chris Brown playing Stadiums (he played Tottenham stadium recently), when he shouldn’t even be allowed in the country! Didn’t see Starmer saying anything there. Guess he was jumping on the bandwagon too.
No two-tier justice in the UK of course, look away now..
Good call. They only get attention because of their deliberately created controversies. If UK authorities as a whole just ignore them, they’ll be washed up and performing at Butlins by summer 2026.
As long as they don’t write it on social media they won’t prosected… 🤪
If they go after them, I hope we flood the streets