Zarah Sultana MP si dimette dal lavoro per guidare il nuovo partito con Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
di CaseyEffingRyback
Zarah Sultana MP si dimette dal lavoro per guidare il nuovo partito con Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
di CaseyEffingRyback
35 commenti
A lukewarm welcome to our next Prime Minister, Nigel Farage.
*sigh*
> Tbf, nothing he’s [Jeremy Corbyn] said has indicated he would lead this prospective new party, and there’s no reason to also believe that current Labour MPs [Zarah Sultana] couldn’t / wouldn’t leave to become a part of it
A comment I left earlier today. Does this make me a prophet?
Very hard to start a new party but you can certainly chip off votes by playing the long game like Greens
Farage and Badenoch are throwing a party right now.
I’m glad for this though.
If we can get four or five sizeable parties in parliament that can’t hold a majority on their own, we could finally get voting reform.
Corbyn’s last leadership saw mass defections and a wipeout in 2019, this reunion won’t magically reverse that.
They’ll siphon off a few hard-left activists, but a new party starts with zero infrastructure, no media reach and minimal fundraising.
They’re setting themselves up as permanent protest vote material, no policymaking clout, no cabinet seats, just another fringe group guaranteed to help the Tories or Reform UK win under FPTP.
This could be great for labour, all the loons defect to Corbyn’s party and Starmer could be alright. Abbott next please
This confirms what a lot of people already thought. She was never really interested in representing her constituents, it was always about activism, not local issues.
She’s spent more time talking about Gaza and Britain’s past than she has about the NHS, housing, or jobs in Coventry. MPs are supposed to serve their communities, not use Parliament as a platform for international protest.
If someone sees the country as fundamentally broken, how can they be trusted to lead it? We need politicians who want to fix Britain, not just condemn it.
Unless there are more defections, isn’t this just another Change UK?
If we didnt have FPTP this would be good news. Maybe this will spur the greens into getting their shit together too, someone stealing their thunder being a protest party might drive them to actually having a cohesive vision
You can always rely on the left to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Losing is better than compromise, apparently.
On the bright side. We now have a left wing party. On the significantly darker side I think this all but guarantees a reform victory
Other than Student and harder left voters and activists, most people outside of that bubble do not take Sultana as a serious MP. She has all the gravitas of an A Level student debater. This is not a blow to Starmer in any way. Whatever you think for him, he has succeeded in removing the Corbyn left from the party. The only thing that is now a threat to Labour is him and his government’s inability to actually govern.
Whatever one’s political opinion on this, “Billionaires already have three parties fighting for them. It’s time the rest of us had one” stands out as a strikingly pithy penultimate sentence.
“If you are not as *left wing* as the *left wing* person you are talking to, you are the enemy” – Daniel Sloss
To anyone that has concerns about “splitting the left” (no, I’m not including Labour in that), parties can and have been willing to stand down in seats where aligned parties are more likely to win in the past. This new party, the Greens, and even the Lib Dem’s could quite easily enter into an agreement like this, perhaps similar to France’s New Popular Front
Maybe Starmer and co. will use this opportunity to stop browbeating and start thinking about the structural integrity of their coalition.
All the cries of “letting Reform win” should probably realise that it takes two to tango…
Good this country need a Zohran Mamdani/AOC type socialist party.
About time but probably years too late. Reform stepped into the gap that was crying out for something like this.
Good. Might actually see proper left and right politics instead of the pretenders we are currently served with.
Well I do love the general attitudes around here.
When nothing changes “This, that and the other is wrong, we need to do something. So on and so forth.”
When someone makes a change “No, not like that!”
Personally I wish them the best of luck going forwards. Yes it will be difficult. Yes they may very well fail to achieve anything at all. At least they’re trying *something*.
If they go to the next election Jeremy Corbyn will have handed the the election to the party I presume he hates the most.
I’m sure plenty of people will be blaming them for a Reform victory. Similar to Democrats in the US blaming left wing voters for Kamala losing the election. But the Labour right have only themselves to blame for further splitting the “left”.
In the mind of the ideologically pure it’s better for a far-right government to brutalise the country than for a centre-left party to be allowed to move a hair to the right of a humanities undergrad in a Che Guevara t-shirt.
I like Zarah, she’s my MP and I’m happy to say I (tactically) voted for her in the past two elections despite being a member of the Lib Dems (they really have NO chance in Coventry). She’s a great constituency MP, I’ve seen her speak live and she’s very good, I support a lot of what she does, and I like how she’s unashamedly outspoken against the genocide in Palestine.
I am no fan of the populism game that Keir Starmer is playing at the moment, empowering bigots, refusing to condemn war crimes, noodling with ways to disenfranchise the needy whilst U-Turning on cutting winter fuel payment and perpetuating the Triple Lock.
However, partnering with this Brexit-enabling fuckwit who gave us many more years of the Tories than we needed is a shite move. This will split the party and accelerate our descent into a country dictated by Reform Ltd.
More center left votes going to a minority
Good job guys at least the barbaric hamas and Hezbollah appreciate the effort so they can continue suppressing gays
They could call it United Britain, inspired by Putin’s United Russia.
Both of these MPs have blamed NATO for his aggressive behaviour towards other countries.
If she’s on board I am interested. If they can get Dawn Butler I am fully in.
A socialist party – they will be ridiculed and buried by the mainstream.
People crowing about how unlikely their chances are in 2029 are totally missing the bigger picture here, in the historical turning point we’re currently enduring. Winning a single election isn’t the point – *surviving* as an independent political force is.
The Labour Party, as currently constituted, is a rotting corpse. The more sound-headed people on its left flank who leave it for good before the worms finally finish gnawing their way through, the better.
I read this and think this will be the antisemetism party
Another day, another pointless groupsickle full of weirdos who spend a quarter of their time talking about politics and three quarters of their time ranting and raving about how the Muslim fundamentalists in general and the Palestinian terrorists in particular deserve a fairer shake and we are all fascist bastards for not giving them everything they want up to and including nuking Israel, and can we please vote for them and they’ll make the world a worker’s paradise lol
Because “The Independent Group” aka “Change UK” aka “whatever they’re calling themselves today” worked so well. All of them lost their seats and the party has now been struck off.
It was only a matter of time. Starmer can’t be shocked with the strategy of isolating one wing of his party and them deciding to splinter off
This thread is unsurprisingly wild already. Apparently this new party is both entirely irrelevant student politics, but also enough to put Nigel Farage into power. Make it make sense?
Personally I think it will be nice to finally have a party which actually represents the interests of the British public, and doesn’t just kowtow to the highest bidder. Constantly voting for *the lesser evil* has got us into this mess, how about we vote for a party who will actually represent our interests instead?
Please call yourselves the “Popular Front” we can bask in the memes