The last one is like today’s beauty standarts – face lifting, full of corrections and an identical-looking end result.
The self-identity has gone.
Significant_Many_454 on
The right one looks way better than the left one
Cmdr_Anun on
She looks like… she’s having a good time..
cai_85 on
The before one looks like that because it was rubbed by visitors…so are you suggesting it should be returned to 2024 or whenever it was made?
Supershadow30 on
The rightmost final attempt’s new face is very realistic, but the eyes lack some… expressiveness. The “before” eyes look frightened, anxious, while the new faces look tired, the eyes are much more subdued.
Abigail_Blyg on
rhinoplasty, lip filler, cheek implants, chin implant, jaw shave, brow bone reduction, buccal fat removal, botox and eye lift
Herlander_Carvalho on
I rate it 3 out of 10 in the Ecce Homo scale.
akdakd1102 on
I’m a manuscript conservator, and conservators are trained extensively in both ethics and minimal intervention techniques. The idea is _never_ to ‘refresh’ a historical artifact, it is to slow down chemical and structural degradation, and give as much support as possible without obscuring the original object. There have been massive disagreements in the field about the role of ‘restoration’ in conservation, and how far one can ethically take it without compromising historical integrity. I cant believe this keeps happening in Europe, of all places – so much of academic conservation discourse is centered there.
Lol, what is wrong with people sayig ‘after’ looks better. That’s not the point, people. Restoration isn’t supposed to make the art look better, it should restore the original to a better state, not to look different.
lledaso on
The eyelashes in the second one are horrible but I think the last one is generally quite nice, it looks more melancholic than scared but otherwise it seems really well done. I also disagree with the “modern makeup” thing. Sculptures like these have always had exaggerated features, rosé cheeks etc., same with the slightly askew focus of the eyes/crosseyedness, it’s intentional.
It’s also hard to compare since the last one is taken from a slightly higher perspective and with different lighting, see the shadow of the chin and the angle where the neck and face meet. This makes the last one look like there’s more accentuation of the face shape when there’s actually barely any difference. What has noticably changed is the eyelids.
From what I’ve read about this it also seems to be a bit of a social media thing that people just like to pile on even when they have no real idea about restorations like these.
PinkestMango on
They yassified Mary
Sea-Position-7189 on
This is even botched from a slight theological point- but do take what I am about to say with a grain of salt cause I am not someone of christian faith- and also if this is actually not the Holy Mother Mary ignore this entirely
The final result focusing on the despair she is experiencing takes way from the fact that in the original piece she does have an air of hope around her- her eyes are much more open and less dark and even her lips are slightly open. She is in clear distress but she is also tolerating it, supposed to give hope to the viewer- furthermore the way she clenches her forehead-brows area in the original piece is more of a /I am trying to focus on not feeling the pain/ while the newest version is completely overcome with pain
Edit: it is basically showing that Mary is bearing the weight of birthing the Messiah and raising him until his death- along the other six grievances she has and is not overcome by her anguish- giving others hope to overcome their struggles
vksdann on
Comparing this to “potato Jesus” is wild
fosgobbit on
I think we are looking at Paul McCartney from 1964-1966.
Moosplauze on
Why did it need restauration? Does old art need to look new?
UnrulyCrow on
And this sculpture looks like it didn’t even need a restoration job on it 😭 like, it looked perfectly fine as it was, the colours were still good and the surface didn’t seem damaged at least
hulda2 on
Why do they give these restorations to lousy amateurs?
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There s not much difference tbh.
Dude it’s scarry how real the last one looks without all those shiny surfaces.
It ain’t that bad. The last one is ok
The one on the far right looks best.
I can hear Julian Baumgartner crying in the background.
I think the last one is way better than the “before”. I think you can’t call it “botched”. It’s closer to fatigue and heart brokenness.
the final one looks too modern imo, the fuller lips and excessive makeup to accentuate the eyes and cheeks. i prefer the original
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They yassssified her
Last one looks like she’s really angry at how poor of a job has been done.
There are differences, but harking back to the ecce homo to make a comparison to what happened here, I think is a serious lack of respect for the [masterpiece](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/20/ecce-homo-cecilia-gimenez-royalties) that the ecce homo’s restoration entailed.
The last one is like today’s beauty standarts – face lifting, full of corrections and an identical-looking end result.
The self-identity has gone.
The right one looks way better than the left one
She looks like… she’s having a good time..
The before one looks like that because it was rubbed by visitors…so are you suggesting it should be returned to 2024 or whenever it was made?
The rightmost final attempt’s new face is very realistic, but the eyes lack some… expressiveness. The “before” eyes look frightened, anxious, while the new faces look tired, the eyes are much more subdued.
rhinoplasty, lip filler, cheek implants, chin implant, jaw shave, brow bone reduction, buccal fat removal, botox and eye lift
I rate it 3 out of 10 in the Ecce Homo scale.
I’m a manuscript conservator, and conservators are trained extensively in both ethics and minimal intervention techniques. The idea is _never_ to ‘refresh’ a historical artifact, it is to slow down chemical and structural degradation, and give as much support as possible without obscuring the original object. There have been massive disagreements in the field about the role of ‘restoration’ in conservation, and how far one can ethically take it without compromising historical integrity. I cant believe this keeps happening in Europe, of all places – so much of academic conservation discourse is centered there.
Related https://youtu.be/O_p8ncrqRN4
Lol, what is wrong with people sayig ‘after’ looks better. That’s not the point, people. Restoration isn’t supposed to make the art look better, it should restore the original to a better state, not to look different.
The eyelashes in the second one are horrible but I think the last one is generally quite nice, it looks more melancholic than scared but otherwise it seems really well done. I also disagree with the “modern makeup” thing. Sculptures like these have always had exaggerated features, rosé cheeks etc., same with the slightly askew focus of the eyes/crosseyedness, it’s intentional.
It’s also hard to compare since the last one is taken from a slightly higher perspective and with different lighting, see the shadow of the chin and the angle where the neck and face meet. This makes the last one look like there’s more accentuation of the face shape when there’s actually barely any difference. What has noticably changed is the eyelids.
From what I’ve read about this it also seems to be a bit of a social media thing that people just like to pile on even when they have no real idea about restorations like these.
They yassified Mary
This is even botched from a slight theological point- but do take what I am about to say with a grain of salt cause I am not someone of christian faith- and also if this is actually not the Holy Mother Mary ignore this entirely
The final result focusing on the despair she is experiencing takes way from the fact that in the original piece she does have an air of hope around her- her eyes are much more open and less dark and even her lips are slightly open. She is in clear distress but she is also tolerating it, supposed to give hope to the viewer- furthermore the way she clenches her forehead-brows area in the original piece is more of a /I am trying to focus on not feeling the pain/ while the newest version is completely overcome with pain
Edit: it is basically showing that Mary is bearing the weight of birthing the Messiah and raising him until his death- along the other six grievances she has and is not overcome by her anguish- giving others hope to overcome their struggles
Comparing this to “potato Jesus” is wild
I think we are looking at Paul McCartney from 1964-1966.
Why did it need restauration? Does old art need to look new?
And this sculpture looks like it didn’t even need a restoration job on it 😭 like, it looked perfectly fine as it was, the colours were still good and the surface didn’t seem damaged at least
Why do they give these restorations to lousy amateurs?