In case of share of Patriot compared to samp/t is big, so for the rate of aster 30 it’s fine, it’s just that well, europeans does not choose europeans products so after europeans complain that european products are bad when USA is literally whole EU combined in terms of economy but well.
CertainMiddle2382 on
So after all of the talk, Europe still produces >3 less ground to air missiles than the US, and if we trust these numbers are unwilling/unable to scale up significantly.
hmtk1976 on
What is the purpose of *yet another number that means nothing on its own*?
Stanislovakia on
For context, Russia produced approximately 800-1000 Iskanders every year. And approximately another 120 Kinzhals every year. These are the missiles that Patriots and SAMP systems are seriously needed against since other interceptors struggle alot more against ballistic missiles.
promet11 on
Russian shahid drones need to be shot down by cheap AA missiles.
Poland is upgrading the production rate of the Piorun MANPADS missile to 2000 missiles per year. https://defence24.com/industry/3000-piorun-manpads-delivered-record-levels-of-profit-for-mesko
Any-Original-6113 on
Will this stop Russia?
Littlepage3130 on
These numbers are very pessimistic. If Europe doesn’t increase its anti-air missile production substantially, then Ukraine will continue to be at the mercy of Trump when it comes to air defence.
lifeisahighway2023 on
Do the Patriot future production numbers include the new production lines forthcoming in Germany and I think Japan?
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In case of share of Patriot compared to samp/t is big, so for the rate of aster 30 it’s fine, it’s just that well, europeans does not choose europeans products so after europeans complain that european products are bad when USA is literally whole EU combined in terms of economy but well.
So after all of the talk, Europe still produces >3 less ground to air missiles than the US, and if we trust these numbers are unwilling/unable to scale up significantly.
What is the purpose of *yet another number that means nothing on its own*?
For context, Russia produced approximately 800-1000 Iskanders every year. And approximately another 120 Kinzhals every year. These are the missiles that Patriots and SAMP systems are seriously needed against since other interceptors struggle alot more against ballistic missiles.
Russian shahid drones need to be shot down by cheap AA missiles.
Poland is upgrading the production rate of the Piorun MANPADS missile to 2000 missiles per year. https://defence24.com/industry/3000-piorun-manpads-delivered-record-levels-of-profit-for-mesko
Will this stop Russia?
These numbers are very pessimistic. If Europe doesn’t increase its anti-air missile production substantially, then Ukraine will continue to be at the mercy of Trump when it comes to air defence.
Do the Patriot future production numbers include the new production lines forthcoming in Germany and I think Japan?
Waste of money.