I mean losing a few square metres from a studio apartment seems fine, but I’m not a fan of this:
> The requirement for a certain number of one-bedroom and three-bedroom apartments in every development will also be removed.
North_Activity_5980 on
This fucking crowd man !
cmjh87 on
What a shower of dopes. They will find every way to appease developer and to avoid having to do anything themselves.
Grand-Cup-A-Tea on
The government did this before and we all know what happened then.
Strict-Gap9062 on
Housing in Ireland bas really became a race to the bottom.
WickerMan111 on
Great news.
BlueBucket0 on
They’re already tiny.
We do need more options of proper studio apartments for single people and decent short term residential (not Airbnb) lets
geesegoesgoose on
That assumes they actually build the apartment blocks, of course.
Warm_Independence936 on
Just build more of the things. Build them higher. Sell them cheaper.
Developers who helped cause the last crash still having their nests feathered.
We really need to develop a sense of outrage and do what the french do.
A-Hind-D on
Studio apartments by design should be small. I can see the benefit for those who are only getting up and running in a city/career.
But the issue is that will these people be able to afford the next step up OR will we have the availability of bigger apartments/houses?
If we don’t have that stepping stone then these small studios could become slums rather quickly and the issue we face already is simply compounded .
cintec17 on
Eventually a 1 bed apartment will become a bedsit.
MilBrocEire on
Looks like shrinkflation is hitting housing now…
Skorch33 on
Yes because Tenements have never increased poverty, disease or crime
A_Right_Eejit on
Build up FFS! Ireland’s abhorrence of the high-rise is ridiculous.
jhanley on
The developers will just take whatever configuration is smaller and build more of them in the block. More profit that way
ScaldyBogBalls on
The housing crisis began, to the day, when they banned the bedsits, that’s when rents started to spike upward and never stopped. We love trying to regulate our way to better quality housing, when all we’ve done is regulate out viable dwelling types in favour of having adults live in their childhood bedrooms.
What a fantastic choice we made!
durden111111 on
live in the bug pod…
slavetothemachine- on
Cool, so the developer is to pocket the additional 100,000 is cost savings/flat with no effect on the cost to the buying.
Solve the housing crisis by building more substandard housing. Who keeps voting for these muppets?
jimicus on
Apartment sizes aren’t the problem.
The problem is a huge number of builders and assorted trades left Ireland after the crash – and haven’t returned. The ones that are left can pretty much name their price – and that’s exactly what they do.
Combine that with a dysfunctional planning process that pretty well encourages BANANAS and guarantees it takes an age to get anything approved, and you’ve got a recipe for extortionate property prices that ain’t going away even if you house everyone in shoeboxes.
The only people left building apartment complexes are doing so on a “build to rent” basis – they’re corporates with millions to throw at a process that simply isn’t profitable unless you rent every damn one of them out. And you wind up with an apartment complex comprising 3 or 4 buildings and 200 apartments in somewhere like Tallaght.
Excellent-Finger-254 on
Apartments are already too small.
miju-irl on
This will actually raise the price per sqm if you think about it.
Based on a €250k one-bed apartment, instead of paying €6,757 per sqm (37 sqm), you’re now paying €7,812 per sqm (32 sqm).
Unless you believe these new apartments will somehow be cheaper (they won’t).
karlywarly73 on
Just give the planning authorities a quota of housing units that they must approve per annum and let the market take care of the details.
justtoreplytothisnow on
This seems like a good idea to be honest.
Ireland’s minimum space standards are quite high too. In a lot of other countries with more apartments living (France, Italy, Spain, Japan, etc.) it’s lower. For example, a one bed apartment in Ireland has to be at least 37m². In Japan it’s only 25m², Spain and Portugal 20m², Netherlands 18m², and France 14m².
People get very defensive around minimum space, but if you have high minimum space standard you pay for it in the prices and fewer units are built. If you personally want these higher standards there’s still loads of properties that’ll have them and you can pay for them, it just doesnt make sense to say everyone has to pay for them.
Personally I would be happier with the option for smaller and cheaper places.
JMcDesign1 on
As if homes weren’t already small enough. They should come with claustrophobia warnings.
Alastor001 on
Of course… Why make them smaller? Is there lack of space vertically? No. Just build freaking up.
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I mean losing a few square metres from a studio apartment seems fine, but I’m not a fan of this:
> The requirement for a certain number of one-bedroom and three-bedroom apartments in every development will also be removed.
This fucking crowd man !
What a shower of dopes. They will find every way to appease developer and to avoid having to do anything themselves.
The government did this before and we all know what happened then.
Housing in Ireland bas really became a race to the bottom.
Great news.
They’re already tiny.
We do need more options of proper studio apartments for single people and decent short term residential (not Airbnb) lets
That assumes they actually build the apartment blocks, of course.
Just build more of the things. Build them higher. Sell them cheaper.
Developers who helped cause the last crash still having their nests feathered.
We really need to develop a sense of outrage and do what the french do.
Studio apartments by design should be small. I can see the benefit for those who are only getting up and running in a city/career.
But the issue is that will these people be able to afford the next step up OR will we have the availability of bigger apartments/houses?
If we don’t have that stepping stone then these small studios could become slums rather quickly and the issue we face already is simply compounded .
Eventually a 1 bed apartment will become a bedsit.
Looks like shrinkflation is hitting housing now…
Yes because Tenements have never increased poverty, disease or crime
Build up FFS! Ireland’s abhorrence of the high-rise is ridiculous.
The developers will just take whatever configuration is smaller and build more of them in the block. More profit that way
The housing crisis began, to the day, when they banned the bedsits, that’s when rents started to spike upward and never stopped. We love trying to regulate our way to better quality housing, when all we’ve done is regulate out viable dwelling types in favour of having adults live in their childhood bedrooms.
What a fantastic choice we made!
live in the bug pod…
Cool, so the developer is to pocket the additional 100,000 is cost savings/flat with no effect on the cost to the buying.
Solve the housing crisis by building more substandard housing. Who keeps voting for these muppets?
Apartment sizes aren’t the problem.
The problem is a huge number of builders and assorted trades left Ireland after the crash – and haven’t returned. The ones that are left can pretty much name their price – and that’s exactly what they do.
Combine that with a dysfunctional planning process that pretty well encourages BANANAS and guarantees it takes an age to get anything approved, and you’ve got a recipe for extortionate property prices that ain’t going away even if you house everyone in shoeboxes.
The only people left building apartment complexes are doing so on a “build to rent” basis – they’re corporates with millions to throw at a process that simply isn’t profitable unless you rent every damn one of them out. And you wind up with an apartment complex comprising 3 or 4 buildings and 200 apartments in somewhere like Tallaght.
Apartments are already too small.
This will actually raise the price per sqm if you think about it.
Based on a €250k one-bed apartment, instead of paying €6,757 per sqm (37 sqm), you’re now paying €7,812 per sqm (32 sqm).
Unless you believe these new apartments will somehow be cheaper (they won’t).
Just give the planning authorities a quota of housing units that they must approve per annum and let the market take care of the details.
This seems like a good idea to be honest.
Ireland’s minimum space standards are quite high too. In a lot of other countries with more apartments living (France, Italy, Spain, Japan, etc.) it’s lower. For example, a one bed apartment in Ireland has to be at least 37m². In Japan it’s only 25m², Spain and Portugal 20m², Netherlands 18m², and France 14m².
People get very defensive around minimum space, but if you have high minimum space standard you pay for it in the prices and fewer units are built. If you personally want these higher standards there’s still loads of properties that’ll have them and you can pay for them, it just doesnt make sense to say everyone has to pay for them.
Personally I would be happier with the option for smaller and cheaper places.
As if homes weren’t already small enough. They should come with claustrophobia warnings.
Of course… Why make them smaller? Is there lack of space vertically? No. Just build freaking up.