Surely there must be a human being somewhere in this process who realized what was happening and knew it was wrong.
Someone who owes no tax, who may not have much money or have health problems stopping them keeping on top of things.
Beany2209 on
They might not ‘owe’ tax, but there is a deadline for submitting a self assessment return. Even if you don’t think you should be submitting one, if HMRC send you one you MUST return it. The deadline is always 31 Jan & there are well publicised penalties that apply if your self assessment is late.
TobyADev on
My partner got one of those penalties for a self assessment although he wasn’t registered, and last filed about 3 years ago. He contacted them – they rescinded the fine and actually then paid him ~£500 for tax they owed him. funny that
MetalWorking3915 on
I think they have seriously f***** up across the whole tax system this year and its clearly been covered up
digidigitakt on
HMRC is a farce. The people you speak to on the phone though are lovely and helpful.
But the organisation is a con.
Playful_Cherry8117 on
Reading the article, this is an issue with the self employed individuals not filling their forms on time. I was self employed years ago, and there was a tick box to say that was inactive or earned less than the bare minimum. Can’t remember it exactly, but it was literally a tick box.
HMRC spends millions on ads to remind people to complete their assessment. The issue is on the individuals not HMRC.
Thatweasel on
Comes down to the threshold you’re required to register and send a self assessment being surprisingly low, and the lack of a low income cap on fees for not filing.
It’s not hard to hit the £1000 threshold to register as a sole trader and file a tax return even if your ‘business’ is something like sporadic craft sales to fund a hobby. Then even if you’re well below the tax threshold you could get saddled with a small mountain of penalty fees if you didn’t deal with it correctly
When the return is filed, HMRC will typically remove the penalties as long as the taxpayer has a reasonable excuse and hasn’t repeatedly done this.
mzivtins_acc on
The tax code in the UK is 200,000 pages long, it is only going to get worse and more egregious until the entire system is destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up with simplicity at it’s core.
simondrawer on
I have legit debt collectors sending me threatening letters for tax that I do not owe. I am about £20 in credit on my tax account. Every time they send me a letter I send them an invoice for £100 for processing fee and a reminder not to contact me unless they agree to the fee. The debt collection company is building up quite a debt.
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Surely there must be a human being somewhere in this process who realized what was happening and knew it was wrong.
Someone who owes no tax, who may not have much money or have health problems stopping them keeping on top of things.
They might not ‘owe’ tax, but there is a deadline for submitting a self assessment return. Even if you don’t think you should be submitting one, if HMRC send you one you MUST return it. The deadline is always 31 Jan & there are well publicised penalties that apply if your self assessment is late.
My partner got one of those penalties for a self assessment although he wasn’t registered, and last filed about 3 years ago. He contacted them – they rescinded the fine and actually then paid him ~£500 for tax they owed him. funny that
I think they have seriously f***** up across the whole tax system this year and its clearly been covered up
HMRC is a farce. The people you speak to on the phone though are lovely and helpful.
But the organisation is a con.
Reading the article, this is an issue with the self employed individuals not filling their forms on time. I was self employed years ago, and there was a tick box to say that was inactive or earned less than the bare minimum. Can’t remember it exactly, but it was literally a tick box.
HMRC spends millions on ads to remind people to complete their assessment. The issue is on the individuals not HMRC.
Comes down to the threshold you’re required to register and send a self assessment being surprisingly low, and the lack of a low income cap on fees for not filing.
It’s not hard to hit the £1000 threshold to register as a sole trader and file a tax return even if your ‘business’ is something like sporadic craft sales to fund a hobby. Then even if you’re well below the tax threshold you could get saddled with a small mountain of penalty fees if you didn’t deal with it correctly
Read up on the [robodebt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme) scandal in Australia. People ended up killing themselves after being pursued for debts they didn’t owe.
When the return is filed, HMRC will typically remove the penalties as long as the taxpayer has a reasonable excuse and hasn’t repeatedly done this.
The tax code in the UK is 200,000 pages long, it is only going to get worse and more egregious until the entire system is destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up with simplicity at it’s core.
I have legit debt collectors sending me threatening letters for tax that I do not owe. I am about £20 in credit on my tax account. Every time they send me a letter I send them an invoice for £100 for processing fee and a reminder not to contact me unless they agree to the fee. The debt collection company is building up quite a debt.