“Le tasse di base dovranno aumentare”, ex segretario commerciale del Regno Unito [Vince Cable] dice
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/07/03/were-going-to-have-to-confront-the-country-with-the-fact-that-basic-taxes-will-have-to-rise-says-vince-cable-former-uk-business.html
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What will it take for those who are most well off to shoulder the burden?
Edit, I never understand why people who are not part of the highest earners always go to bat for them, you are not going to be in that position. They should shoulder a greater burden.
I would like to remind people of this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/OvxxL80XdC) from yesterday.
And as long as the rich keep hoovering up all the money, they will carry on rising, until the economy and society collapses.
It’s that simple. Either we reverse the movement of money to the rich and fix society. Or we carry on to collapse and anarchy. And it’s the rich that need to decide, and quick. Because they are the ones holding all the levers of power.
Trouble is, they’re largely a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths. At best. So I’m not hopeful that they’ll do the right thing.
Taxing the rest of us more isn’t going to fix a fucking thing.
Why is taxing the wealthy never even part of the discussion? The hold they have over our politics is ridiculous. There is plenty of wealth there to tax.
The top 1% already pay 30% of all taxes. I wonder whether this sub wants them to pay 100% of all taxes and even fund UBI so they can live for free.
The issue is we’ve essentially swapped higher tax receipts for higher housing and utilities costs, compound that with how the less wealthy spend more back into the economy. Raising basic rate taxes will negatively impact the economy, unless that is offset by higher disposable income by reducing housing and utilities costs.
eventually people will say fuckoff to them and their tax collectors.
You can’t tax your way to growth, if this hits working people it will be disastrous for the economy. People are already struggling enough, any tax on the basic rate will be money taken directly out of the economy.
As it should. We cant live in a society where so many are net drainers. I would scrap the personal allowance as well. Everyone should be contributing.
We cant just keep going after the imaginary rich.
I like how every path has been explored other than the one we most all want and NEED.
So obvious what needs to be done. Corporate tax on the extremely successful corps, such as Google.
All world leaders could and should gather and set a precedent that if Amazon, Facebook, Google & others want to operate in their countries then they have to pay more tax. This can’t be done currently, I get that, sadly. However, if UK, USA, Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Spain, India, Japan etc etc did this Amazon and the like couldn’t get away with the shit they are currently, bluntly.
Middle class annoyed with having to pay more tax (understandably) being instructed via billionaire owned rags and media to look down at the disabled and poor for just living and requiring money isn’t where we should be focussing. If leaders actually lead and cared about their citizens then issues like controlled migration would’ve occurred and Farage and Con artists alike wouldn’t have ever risen.
If we in the education system decades ago invested in lessons on trade, finance and other non ‘academic’ pursuits for students than the model of ‘not Uni level smart, well, then your fucked, bye!’ Then more would be ‘better of’ and less on welfare benefits.
PIP is not a out of work benefit.
You don’t get a free car it comes off your money you get.
If we did all this our country and the world would be far better of.
UK has given billions to Ukraine (understandably) however, we need to as a country start focussing heavily more so inwards and band together rather than in fighting within a system that wants that for us, sadly.
All this ranting about how evil rich people are and not a single word about the insane level of public spending. It will need to come down one way or another, whether that’s willingly or thanks to economic collapse.
Great, I can’t wait to pay more tax while watching social services crumble, the NHS struggling, poor people not being able to afford the basics for life while the rich get richer. At least the gov will have even more money to spunk on weapons of death now though….
As much as I fucking hate Reform I think I agree that the state needs to shrink. Increased taxes on the working class when they’re just starting to recover and wages are catching up would just tank the economy and make everyone so angry.
I really don’t think there’s a winning situation here. Services are in shambles and the money needed to do them up can’t be generated so something has to give.
At what point are we actually going to have the conversation on the diminishing returns on our taxes, where they keep going up but public services keep being cut? What are we paying these taxes for exactly? Politicians can’t just keep raising taxes without actually improving services in return
ITT – a bunch of loons defending trickle down that’s failed societies globally for decades
Taxes do not need to rise to match every instance of government expenditure, only the ones deemed to be inflationary.
The issue isn’t the amount of tax raised, it’s how it’s wasted.
There’s things the government just shouldn’t be doing at all and then all those things were the government pays far much for.
Lean/Six Sigma methodologies need rolling out across every process.
Government spends £1.2trn a year. A mere 5% saving from efficiencies is £60bn! That’s not job cuts, that’s just doing a process effectively.
There’s not 5% waste to find? Hardly!
Great interview with Dan Neidle on tax policy and tax reform [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCysenflH4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCysenflH4)
Considering how expensive nearly everything in the UK already is…this is really f’d up.