Its not ideal that we need to use them as a general group, but in the short term its a solution whilst the longer term solution of sorting out how shit food in general has gotten needs tackling
That_Boy_42069 on
Theyre a start. Like if you cannot bring yourself to swallow food in excess it really does help. Being lighter let’s you get fit without mad joint pain and that embarrassment from being all wobbly.
It is true though that without backing it with learning to eat the right foods (not the wrong foods, just less) and a lifestyle change to increased activity you’ll not see the big public health changes you really want to see.
Youll just have malnourished sedentary people, dying of rickets and shit.
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dented-spoiler on
You can take my fat, but you’ll never take my sugar loaded drinks!
PatrickTheSosij on
I have a sister and BIL who are on them and bloody hell it’s life changing for them. They genuinely have spoken of how life improving it is, the best decision they have both made.
I cannot see them rebounding once off the jabs.
Necessary-Product361 on
Unironically, if we put serious effort into reducing poverty, obesity rates would fall as a result. Not just because schemes that address poverty, like free school meals, also improve people’s diets, but because, as many studies have found, poverty reduces people’s access to healthy food and exercise.
Dapper_Otters on
Of course not, but they are the only thing to have put a genuine dent in the rising rate of obesity at the macro level, in decades.
We should be giving them out like sweets.
EgoCity on
Charging people more for unhealthy food isnt going to stop the obesity issue, people will just spend more as the crap food is more filling.
People have less time to spend making dinner and people have to adapt.
Can’t wait for some genius mention buying porridge and making a years worth of meals..
JayR_97 on
The hard truth no one wants to hear is you need to change your lifestyle to lose weight long term. If you try whatever diet fad is popular now, it may work short term but you’ll just put the weight back on if you make no effort to change your habits
Kim_Jong_Duh on
Save the NHS money.. eat less, move more. Problem solved.
Sarabando on
im on one of thse due to having fatty liver disease, and im getting a side effect that its making MORE hungry which is apparently a fairly common side effect. It HAS changed my tastes though i can now eat tomatoes without gagging violently.
harrythom2018 on
Probably dosnt help that for the cost of one small packet of fatty mince beef, I can get a rustlers burger and an entire bag of frozen chips. Yeah the food sucks but the cost of making healthy food from scratch has ballooned whilst cheap shit food is everywhere
Nekratal99 on
Or you can Stop eating like a pig. It’s not that hard.
OkYogurt2157 on
I love how these medications lay bare the sheer nastiness in some people’s hearts – who just want to moralise at fat people and feel superior
fascinating
DBT85 on
Tackling mine just fine. 35kgs down and 6 more to go until I’m at my target and I start the process of coming off.
That’s 5 doses of each dose so far and yesterday was dose 3 of the 12.5. 22 weeks overall.
Won’t be going back on.
Maintaining is a lot fucking easier than losing 40 kilos.
alibud87 on
These are not weight loss jabs, the use of them for weight loss is off label and they need to stop being reported that way
dcrm on
No crap.
Studies have shown the majority of people who go on these jabs put all the weight back on within a single year, vs those on a conventional diet who keep it off for 5 times longer. Not to mention just losing weight doesn’t make you healthy as you need to exercise to train your CNS, blood oxygen levels etc…
Ambitious-Bit157 on
Genuinely can’t understand people who are against fat loss meds, like genuinely cannot understand.
sausage_shoes on
I’ve not used it myself, I’ve seen someone get really unwell from it. But I can totally understand both sides for and with concern. I’m lucky I’ve managed to go from 96 to 74 currently without – but damn it’s not been fun, nice or easy but my god it feels good to wear clothes I love again. To all those a part of the struggle, keep at it. Every little helps. You’re doing great. Don’t expect perfection, just try your best when you can, even if it’s just small contributions. It saves up. Don’t be afraid to talk to your doctor.
Existing_Goal_7667 on
I would like to see there being a change in the social acceptability of bringing cakes and sweets in to work. Once upon a time people smoked in their offices and we have now changed that, with great effect. Nowadays no-one would consider offering a cigarette to someone who was trying to quit. I would like to see workplaces being asked to keep unhealthy snacks in places that people can easily avoid them if they wish. I don’t want to police what my colleagues bring for their lunch, but if they are going to bring in boxes of biscuits and leave them on the desk next to me all day it’s a problem. They should keep them in their drawer.
VankHilda on
Well, naturally someone overweight not because they were born fat, but because they became fat from bad habits many people on this jab will waste their money and still end up eating like a god damn pig and ending up back to being obease, but poorer for it.
Back it with a desire to lose weight, start counting the calories, figure out the maintenance for your body, and deficit by a good 500 or 1000 calories, lose some weight then go gym, treadmill 15 incline, 4.0 speed. 20 Minutes will burn 300 calories.
JoJoeyJoJo on
It is the only thing that’s worked – we’ve had decades of policy interventions to raise prices, do advertising bans, improve food quality in schools, adjust the recipes of ready meals, shrink portion sizes in fast food, etc – literally none of it had any negative impact on the growth of obesity anywhere in the world – but Ozempic has seen the US’s obesity rate reduce for the first time ever. It addresses the weight gain, but it also addresses the addictive behaviour that drives it.
I think liberals just hate that social problems can in fact be solved technologically, they’ve been increasingly pushing social-only solutions to problems like crime or climate change and attacking anything else.
Worldly_Table_5092 on
If the NHS is paying for it, we should give them a £200 exercise bike as well. They need to learn to not be a fatty fattyson.
pajamakitten on
Of course it won’t. The food environment we have is poor and focuses too much on junk and convenience food over healthy foods, then there is our food culture that focuses on almost every social event being centred around that sort of food. Weight loss jabs are like taking methadone for heroin addicts: you need to tackle the underlying behaviour and the environment that causes people to over-eat.
Jabberminor on
The jab itself is enough to tackle obesity. It’s what the person does after the jabs that’s not enough to tackle obesity.
SnooDoughnuts8941 on
Who does the food shopping for people who are taking this medication ?
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Its not ideal that we need to use them as a general group, but in the short term its a solution whilst the longer term solution of sorting out how shit food in general has gotten needs tackling
Theyre a start. Like if you cannot bring yourself to swallow food in excess it really does help. Being lighter let’s you get fit without mad joint pain and that embarrassment from being all wobbly.
It is true though that without backing it with learning to eat the right foods (not the wrong foods, just less) and a lifestyle change to increased activity you’ll not see the big public health changes you really want to see.
Youll just have malnourished sedentary people, dying of rickets and shit.
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You can take my fat, but you’ll never take my sugar loaded drinks!
I have a sister and BIL who are on them and bloody hell it’s life changing for them. They genuinely have spoken of how life improving it is, the best decision they have both made.
I cannot see them rebounding once off the jabs.
Unironically, if we put serious effort into reducing poverty, obesity rates would fall as a result. Not just because schemes that address poverty, like free school meals, also improve people’s diets, but because, as many studies have found, poverty reduces people’s access to healthy food and exercise.
Of course not, but they are the only thing to have put a genuine dent in the rising rate of obesity at the macro level, in decades.
We should be giving them out like sweets.
Charging people more for unhealthy food isnt going to stop the obesity issue, people will just spend more as the crap food is more filling.
People have less time to spend making dinner and people have to adapt.
Can’t wait for some genius mention buying porridge and making a years worth of meals..
The hard truth no one wants to hear is you need to change your lifestyle to lose weight long term. If you try whatever diet fad is popular now, it may work short term but you’ll just put the weight back on if you make no effort to change your habits
Save the NHS money.. eat less, move more. Problem solved.
im on one of thse due to having fatty liver disease, and im getting a side effect that its making MORE hungry which is apparently a fairly common side effect. It HAS changed my tastes though i can now eat tomatoes without gagging violently.
Probably dosnt help that for the cost of one small packet of fatty mince beef, I can get a rustlers burger and an entire bag of frozen chips. Yeah the food sucks but the cost of making healthy food from scratch has ballooned whilst cheap shit food is everywhere
Or you can Stop eating like a pig. It’s not that hard.
I love how these medications lay bare the sheer nastiness in some people’s hearts – who just want to moralise at fat people and feel superior
fascinating
Tackling mine just fine. 35kgs down and 6 more to go until I’m at my target and I start the process of coming off.
That’s 5 doses of each dose so far and yesterday was dose 3 of the 12.5. 22 weeks overall.
Won’t be going back on.
Maintaining is a lot fucking easier than losing 40 kilos.
These are not weight loss jabs, the use of them for weight loss is off label and they need to stop being reported that way
No crap.
Studies have shown the majority of people who go on these jabs put all the weight back on within a single year, vs those on a conventional diet who keep it off for 5 times longer. Not to mention just losing weight doesn’t make you healthy as you need to exercise to train your CNS, blood oxygen levels etc…
Genuinely can’t understand people who are against fat loss meds, like genuinely cannot understand.
I’ve not used it myself, I’ve seen someone get really unwell from it. But I can totally understand both sides for and with concern. I’m lucky I’ve managed to go from 96 to 74 currently without – but damn it’s not been fun, nice or easy but my god it feels good to wear clothes I love again. To all those a part of the struggle, keep at it. Every little helps. You’re doing great. Don’t expect perfection, just try your best when you can, even if it’s just small contributions. It saves up. Don’t be afraid to talk to your doctor.
I would like to see there being a change in the social acceptability of bringing cakes and sweets in to work. Once upon a time people smoked in their offices and we have now changed that, with great effect. Nowadays no-one would consider offering a cigarette to someone who was trying to quit. I would like to see workplaces being asked to keep unhealthy snacks in places that people can easily avoid them if they wish. I don’t want to police what my colleagues bring for their lunch, but if they are going to bring in boxes of biscuits and leave them on the desk next to me all day it’s a problem. They should keep them in their drawer.
Well, naturally someone overweight not because they were born fat, but because they became fat from bad habits many people on this jab will waste their money and still end up eating like a god damn pig and ending up back to being obease, but poorer for it.
Back it with a desire to lose weight, start counting the calories, figure out the maintenance for your body, and deficit by a good 500 or 1000 calories, lose some weight then go gym, treadmill 15 incline, 4.0 speed. 20 Minutes will burn 300 calories.
It is the only thing that’s worked – we’ve had decades of policy interventions to raise prices, do advertising bans, improve food quality in schools, adjust the recipes of ready meals, shrink portion sizes in fast food, etc – literally none of it had any negative impact on the growth of obesity anywhere in the world – but Ozempic has seen the US’s obesity rate reduce for the first time ever. It addresses the weight gain, but it also addresses the addictive behaviour that drives it.
I think liberals just hate that social problems can in fact be solved technologically, they’ve been increasingly pushing social-only solutions to problems like crime or climate change and attacking anything else.
If the NHS is paying for it, we should give them a £200 exercise bike as well. They need to learn to not be a fatty fattyson.
Of course it won’t. The food environment we have is poor and focuses too much on junk and convenience food over healthy foods, then there is our food culture that focuses on almost every social event being centred around that sort of food. Weight loss jabs are like taking methadone for heroin addicts: you need to tackle the underlying behaviour and the environment that causes people to over-eat.
The jab itself is enough to tackle obesity. It’s what the person does after the jabs that’s not enough to tackle obesity.
Who does the food shopping for people who are taking this medication ?