“Ci viene detto che non equivale a nulla”: è possibile cambiare le fortune dei giovani che vivono nelle città costiere dell’Inghilterra?

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jul/07/young-people-uk-coast-mental-health-coastal-communities-deprivation

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    1. Other_Nothing2436 on

      > “Most people who grew up on the Bourneville estate are lumped into categories, told things like ‘oh, you’re a druggie’, or ‘you’ll never grow up to amount to anything’,” she says. “We’re very much left to the sidelines

      By whom? Their parents? Their teachers? Random people on the street?

    2. surfrider0007 on

      This was my question; told by who? Why do people care so much about other people’s opinions? Go your own way and own it

    3. OGSyedIsEverywhere on

      Having seen a lot of these stories, it is often the case that the pithy quotes about disrespect are a cover, to avoid talking about the real catch-22 facing people stuck in financially unviable plots of land.

      Young people without a degree can’t commute to where the jobs are by car or move to a tiny flat where the jobs are without a few grand for a basic car/flat, but can’t get that money together without the job they need the money to get. With the shortage of builders and incentives to just sit on the land anyway nobody is building a pile of single-occupancy flats with communal kitchens/bathrooms/showers within a 40-minute walk of the big industrial estates in Avonmouth, Trafford Park and Teeside when they can knock up a tower of luxury flats on the site of a arsoned listed building for much more profit.

    4. MordecaiTheBrown on

      I feel fewer drugs might keep the voice out of their heads; other than that, try not to avoid education

    5. _Refuge_ on

      I was raised in a fairly “has been” coastal town all my life, “2.4 children” family, 2 cars, 1 house, 1 holiday a year.

      Started a tech business when I was young and still in school without any support from my teachers or parents (because none were tech literate enough), spent my lunch breaks and a lot of time at home working on it, went to uni, would regularly have to leave my friends in the nightclub queue to sort things out that had gone wrong with my servers, came out of uni with the business earning enough to live off – 15+ years later I’ve sold the business for a very large “generational wealth” sum and retired.

      I now go back to my old secondary school from time to time (at the requests of my some of my old teachers who I met at my local Park Run) and try and explain to the kids there what I did, how I did it, and that anyone who has access to a computer can make something of their lives if they have the will, the time, (they like computers enough to spend a long time on it) and apply themselves. Especially kids who have all their bills paid for them and not a care in the world!

      I wasn’t a straight A student by any stretch, BCC at A-Levels, but I did like computers and soaked up anything computer related like a sponge. Hated maths, but I just accepted that maths was required and got on with it.

      I appreciate not everyone is in the situation above, but a lot of kids get excited when they’re told they can start learning these skills right now, for free, on the internet. Which is what I did.

    6. PixelThinking on

      Having grown up and still living in Scarborough (a “washed up” seaside town with “no prospects”), I honestly believe this is simply just a chip on the shoulder self fulfilling prophecy. 

      Most of my friends and class mates have gone on to do reasonably good things and have good careers living in Scarborough and living elsewhere as well. Some work in retail or in hospitality but I don’t think it’s simply because they live in Scarborough.

      There is a small group of very predictable people who got themselves into drugs, antisocial behaviour, dropped out of college etc who I see hanging around the town centre, and it’s often these people who claim that they never had a chance because of where they come from. 

      It’s simply not true. It’s an excuse for a lack of responsibility, disciple or simply just not knowing what they want to do and drifting through life.

    7. ExcaliburRisen_ on

      Yes tell them what Reform are really about, who backs them financially, and why.

      Spoiler alert: no one in a seaside town will ever get any benefit from backing them.

    8. Sea-Caterpillar-255 on

      No. People need to be enabled to move to working areas. The days of rural life and even small towns are long gone. Its cities or poverty. This is an economic reality over the whole western world and one we are resisting without even realising it.

    9. bobblebob100 on

      Id argue there is never a better time to improve your life. Since covid and home working means alot of jobs you can literally live anywhere in the UK now (or even world for some jobs) That didnt use to be the case.

      Problem is alot of people dont want to work hard to achieve stuff

    10. mattintokyo on

      That’s my hometown. I changed my fortunes by moving to Tokyo.

    11. MrPuddington2 on

      Coastal towns in England are just so sad. No investment, no ideas, no economy, no development, and even no housing. They seem to completely lack investment and planning.

    12. Atlantis3311 on

      The problem is that many Secondary schools patronise pupils, and only offer a dumbed down curricular.

      They both:

      A) Offer inferior subject choices relative to other schools

      B) Force children(often against) their will to take the foundation paper, making access to A Levels impossible.

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