Starmer afferma che il Regno Unito “non può semplicemente tassare la nostra crescita” mentre spazza via le chiamate per l’imposta sulla ricchezza
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/jul/09/pmqs-live-uk-politics-latest-updates-starmer-badenoch-macron-labour-conservatives
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Because the past 15 years of cutting our way to growth has worked so well.
t. the guy who raised tax on work after saying he wouldn’t
[Here’s the telegraph saying the complete opposite](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/09/politics-latest-news-pmqs-starmer-macron-badenoch/)
It’s just a tabloid rage bait rag at this point
>*Starmer says UK ‘can’t just tax our way to growth’*
Unfortunately Starmer said it just a few minutes after Kemi said it.
Wealthy man says “can’t tax wealthy men to get more growth”. Instead we will continue the way we have been for the past two decades during which time we have seen growth shrinking.
Taxes can fix broken infrastructure. Taxes can pay to treat all the sick people we have to get them off benefits the right way.
Both would have economic benefits.
So yes we can tax our way to growth.
I guess it’s more cuts to the disabled and needy then since we can’t tax rich people.
the problem with the UK is the people with the money are more interested in investing in extractive models, i.e. economic rent, ie, literal rent as a landlord, or constantly increasing margins while cutting quality (look at any super market or utility company) and this issue compounds as wealth inequality goes up.
The goal isn’t growth of the economy, the goal is to extract as much money from it as possible, the only way to make them invest money in a way that is healthier for the economy as a collective whole is to force them to, either by taxing and spending or regulation.
Like just look at betting shops, on a personal lvl they can make you wealthy, just look at bet 365 boss, but you cant say that they contribute to the growth of the british economy, if anything there probably a net negative when you factor in all externalities to the business
It’s time to stop this farce. The personal income tax rates need to rise and it will have to involve the average worker in order to raise money. Wealth taxes whenever implemented do not raise substantial amounts of money (see France and Spain). We have to pay more tax, it sucks but as long as we want to have an incredibly expensive welfare state it’s what’s gotta happen.
Maybe we could just have higher taxes for people who want higher taxes? Problem solved
Wait until the budget, no doubt he will indeed to try tax his way to growth again. But it won’t be the wealthy getting taxed more, it will be the middle class.
Increase taxes and institute an exit tax for people who move businesses etc to avoid the increased taxes – simple really
Just before everyone comes in here shouting eat the rich.
European taxation models are much broader than the UK in the way that they absolutely target lower and middle income earners so much more than the UK does.
They also have much lower personal allowance than we do.
Typical, yeah lets tax the poor more. That always goes so well for cost of living and quality of life
Higher taxation just leads to stagnation in the private sector and a bigger, more expensive government. The private sector funds the government so this, if done enough, inevitably results in going broke.
Translation: I’m happy to keep taxing everyone, but not my lords and masters.
This isn’t even an answer, it’s a deferral
Oh but more welfare cuts, those’ll encourage growth, right? /s
What a compromised, wet blanket of a prime minister, man
Hoards of redditor’s are going to come here waffling about European nations and eating the rich.
Then totally refuse to engage you in conversation when it’s explained to them that European models of taxation are much broader and deeper in the sense that they absolutely target low and middle earners considerably more than the British taxation system.
They will also then get annoyed when you bring up most European nations are also struggling under the weight of their social programs budget.
Ummmm…. Yes we can.
Wealth taxes and exit taxes at the top. Take low paid people out of taxes and create a trickle up approach to economics.
Then again, Starmer like his chancellor are wedded to treasury orthodoxy.
Poor old millionaires. They do have it hard. Wealth management must be sooo stressful
But bailing out water companies with tax payers money only for those same private water companies to give billions in bonuses to their bosses is ap great
You can’t austerity your way to growth either. An economy relies on confidence and perception. Taking food out of the mouths of children or kicking a guy in a wheelchair (metaphorical for benefit cuts) does not give off the impression of a strong economy.
Investment leads to growth, we can’t even invest in our University students saddling them with a mountain of debt at the start of what we hope will be an innovative career.
Vile, evil man. “can’t just tax our way to growth”, but he can come after the poorest and most vulnerable with an axe, and that’s apparently fine. unbelievable.
Governments have not represented anyone except the wealthy and powerful for a very long time.
The refusal to anything to actually tackle the problems we face is astounding.
“We cant….”
“Prove it.”
Let’s try it, see what happens. Give it 10 years. Call it a social experiment. What do we have to lose? Billionaires? Oh no!!!
A wealth tax is definitely growing popular but it’s too hard to implement
‘but we can’t austerity our way to growth either Mr prime minis-‘
‘ILL SHOW YOU YOU FECKIN PROLES THE CHILD BENEFIT CAP IS NOW MINUS 2 KIDS’
So you lot are Red Tories anyway. We need new parties. This lot is impotent.
Maybe it’s time to rename the party to Wealth then?
Or just admit that the current name is hipster irony.
No you can’t so stop wasting money on crooks like Thames Water, shit like track and trade, all those ppe, hs2. Country shits tax payer money down the drain.
He can’t tax his mates but can tax OAP’s and companies forcing them to cut the numbers of employees.
“A wealth tax wouldn’t work because we can’t tax our way to growth”
He says as he considers increasing the tax of working people.
Ah! But he can take from the poor, vulnerable and weak? Well no problem we await all by elections and the next general election.