Nationalism will save us, empathy will be the end of us
B1ueRogue on
Are you joking …war in europe ..an aggressive USA… cleaning up after the previous 5 PM sorting out brexit reset..creating trade deals .. saving the steel industry …
When will people of thr UK be happy …when we have a roadman as a PM..
Just let him do his job FFS
Puzzleheaded-Menu466 on
“while one went as far as calling Keir Starmer the “worst Prime Minister in the history of the UK.””
lol
Alarmed_Inflation196 on
I bet that would be nearer 5% if the media/social media didn’t exist
evenstevens280 on
Well ~50% of people have a below average IQ, which leaves 4% of people who have a valid opinion
So… Yeah sounds about right
ITried2 on
I really don’t know how anyone expected things to be better in a year. I really don’t.
Objectively speaking Starmer has a much tougher hand than Blair did.
If he’d said it was this bad during the election he’d have lost. So what was he supposed to do?
In any case, polling and focus groups are hardly terminal. Despite what the media say, apparently the worst government in history is only a few points behind. Hardly terminal historically.
DrUnnecessary on
54 per cent of British populace are morons so indoctrinated by the media moguls they couldn’t see the woods for the trees.
He’s not perfect by any means, but good lord is it refreshing to have someone actually attempting to be competent for the right reasons.
We are surrounded by idiots and they will lead us into idiocracy.
greylord123 on
I don’t think he’s done a bad job.
He seems to be doing well diplomatically (which genuinely surprised me) especially with the likes of Trump and he seems to be working well with the French especially when it comes to stopping boats.
The problem is he’s just a bit too centrist to the point where the lefties think he’s a right wing genocidal maniac and the right wingers think he’s a woke communist who loves illegal immigrants.
It pains me to say it but I somewhat agree. I think he needs to dip his toe a little into the left wing side of labour. It just seems like they are going through the same motions as previous governments of making cuts they are just a bit more reluctant to do.
They just seem like a softer version of the same economic playbook. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I want the Tories back or I want reform. There’s still an improvement but is it enough?
anonypanda on
Kind of disappointing to hear. Labour have taken on the UK in a terrible state and have to make hard and very unpopular decisions. Even common sense reforms are being blocked by their own party as people are putting idealism over pragmatic solutions to rescuing the country from the absolute binfire the tories put us into.
YsoL8 on
My overall impression of this government is that it is completely paralysed by a mix of serial economic shocks, a pretty thoroughly awful inheritance, their own pretty dubious economic rules and their own near total risk aversion.
The one thing they are doing that has left much impression on me is that they seem to be following through on climate commitments.
Its worth saying though that this has been pretty much the standard first impression every government from Thatcher forward has made no matter how they go on to be seen. Apparently its just very difficult to get going in office in the UK. No new government has been popular in the first 2 years.
Silly_Triker on
These polls are never put into context. Consider that Labour only got 33% of the vote in the GE. There are a lot more people who didn’t want him there then there are those that do, from day 0.
I know it’s not a direct comparison, and that he’s probably polled better. But when you factor in that “not-Labour” is the majority of the country, even more if you factor in those who didn’t bother to vote at all. It shouldn’t be surprising.
roddz on
With a super majority like he has, you would expect them to be powering through legislation, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening
ShockingShorties on
Toryboy Starmer should have run for Tory leadership when Truss resigned.
He would have won it by a mile.
Plastic-Impress8616 on
i thought he would have been much worse tbh.
i wouldn’t say he’s been stella. but not half as bad as i was expecting.
Andy_PNE on
Wasn’t expecting him to be much good but he’s been a total disaster along with his joke cabinet. The Tories were bad, but Labour are in a different league of incompetence.
Current_Pitch8944 on
Now I know those polls are bullshit because I don’t know a single person that thinks he’s done anything other than shite
Successful-Syrup3764 on
They’ve truly inherited the worst situation imaginable but I think they could be doing a lot of things better. They are coming off as feckless and not meeting the moment.
Whether you like it or not, in this day and age the media and public persona is so important. That’s why Wes Streeting is getting so much airtime in the press compared to the rest of the cabinet and is being asked all manner of questions, many of which have nothing to do with health or the NHS. While he isn’t super dynamic, he looks like the most interesting man in the world next to Rachel Reeves and Starmer himself.
Reeves and Starmer are both visibly insincere when they come on and smile and dodge Kuennsbergs questions diplomatically as they have been trained to do. But that’s not what people want anymore and they need to get up to speed quickly.
We need swift direction and charismatic leadership. Keir started to get toward the latter in some of the tariff talks. I’m hoping that comes back. Stop fence riding, throw out your well rehearsed scripts and playbooks and talk like human beings. And just make a decision that goes in one direction, any direction.
123kingkongun on
He has continued British support for Israel, it wasn’t a difficult conclusion to reach
mixxituk on
Think he’s doing quite well honestly a little surprised
Tree-fizzy on
I back starmer . Pisses me off how much stick he gets.
Visual_Arrival_4337 on
This is hardly surprising.
Someone once said that in order for the Labour Party to survive the death of Communism, it had to go to venture capitalist ideals to survive.
It did so under Tony Blair.
Until they enforce ethical socialism, they are just nicer sounding Tories, obsessed with economics to the detrement of social circumstances.
Until they figure this out, nothing will really change – and that’s without the threat of authoritarian governments globally, and recent political corruption.
OkDentist1130 on
Frankly, this is the first time in my 26 years that I’ve felt we’ve had an actual politician at the helm, and someone whose primary interests are in improving this country.
It has felt, to me, like one of the most productive years in well over a decade. Now, I’m not naive and I’m not a blind follower of my party, but my god if it hasn’t been a breath of fresh air to see real accounting happening, and hard decisions being made.
Method and execution aside (although both of these have been better than, or at least on a par with, the previous 14 years), I believe we’re in steady hands.
snozburger on
They are absolutely smashing it, our voting base makes me despair.
zephyroxyl on
Inaction over Israel’s genocide, completely dicking over the trans community on very, very shaky grounds (and that’s being generous), the courting of the reform vote, the way he came to power within the Labour party
Yeah he’s a bit of an unpopular one for a lot of people
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Nationalism will save us, empathy will be the end of us
Are you joking …war in europe ..an aggressive USA… cleaning up after the previous 5 PM sorting out brexit reset..creating trade deals .. saving the steel industry …
When will people of thr UK be happy …when we have a roadman as a PM..
Just let him do his job FFS
“while one went as far as calling Keir Starmer the “worst Prime Minister in the history of the UK.””
lol
I bet that would be nearer 5% if the media/social media didn’t exist
Well ~50% of people have a below average IQ, which leaves 4% of people who have a valid opinion
So… Yeah sounds about right
I really don’t know how anyone expected things to be better in a year. I really don’t.
Objectively speaking Starmer has a much tougher hand than Blair did.
If he’d said it was this bad during the election he’d have lost. So what was he supposed to do?
In any case, polling and focus groups are hardly terminal. Despite what the media say, apparently the worst government in history is only a few points behind. Hardly terminal historically.
54 per cent of British populace are morons so indoctrinated by the media moguls they couldn’t see the woods for the trees.
He’s not perfect by any means, but good lord is it refreshing to have someone actually attempting to be competent for the right reasons.
[https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/](https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/)
We are surrounded by idiots and they will lead us into idiocracy.
I don’t think he’s done a bad job.
He seems to be doing well diplomatically (which genuinely surprised me) especially with the likes of Trump and he seems to be working well with the French especially when it comes to stopping boats.
The problem is he’s just a bit too centrist to the point where the lefties think he’s a right wing genocidal maniac and the right wingers think he’s a woke communist who loves illegal immigrants.
It pains me to say it but I somewhat agree. I think he needs to dip his toe a little into the left wing side of labour. It just seems like they are going through the same motions as previous governments of making cuts they are just a bit more reluctant to do.
They just seem like a softer version of the same economic playbook. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I want the Tories back or I want reform. There’s still an improvement but is it enough?
Kind of disappointing to hear. Labour have taken on the UK in a terrible state and have to make hard and very unpopular decisions. Even common sense reforms are being blocked by their own party as people are putting idealism over pragmatic solutions to rescuing the country from the absolute binfire the tories put us into.
My overall impression of this government is that it is completely paralysed by a mix of serial economic shocks, a pretty thoroughly awful inheritance, their own pretty dubious economic rules and their own near total risk aversion.
The one thing they are doing that has left much impression on me is that they seem to be following through on climate commitments.
Its worth saying though that this has been pretty much the standard first impression every government from Thatcher forward has made no matter how they go on to be seen. Apparently its just very difficult to get going in office in the UK. No new government has been popular in the first 2 years.
These polls are never put into context. Consider that Labour only got 33% of the vote in the GE. There are a lot more people who didn’t want him there then there are those that do, from day 0.
I know it’s not a direct comparison, and that he’s probably polled better. But when you factor in that “not-Labour” is the majority of the country, even more if you factor in those who didn’t bother to vote at all. It shouldn’t be surprising.
With a super majority like he has, you would expect them to be powering through legislation, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening
Toryboy Starmer should have run for Tory leadership when Truss resigned.
He would have won it by a mile.
i thought he would have been much worse tbh.
i wouldn’t say he’s been stella. but not half as bad as i was expecting.
Wasn’t expecting him to be much good but he’s been a total disaster along with his joke cabinet. The Tories were bad, but Labour are in a different league of incompetence.
Now I know those polls are bullshit because I don’t know a single person that thinks he’s done anything other than shite
They’ve truly inherited the worst situation imaginable but I think they could be doing a lot of things better. They are coming off as feckless and not meeting the moment.
Whether you like it or not, in this day and age the media and public persona is so important. That’s why Wes Streeting is getting so much airtime in the press compared to the rest of the cabinet and is being asked all manner of questions, many of which have nothing to do with health or the NHS. While he isn’t super dynamic, he looks like the most interesting man in the world next to Rachel Reeves and Starmer himself.
Reeves and Starmer are both visibly insincere when they come on and smile and dodge Kuennsbergs questions diplomatically as they have been trained to do. But that’s not what people want anymore and they need to get up to speed quickly.
We need swift direction and charismatic leadership. Keir started to get toward the latter in some of the tariff talks. I’m hoping that comes back. Stop fence riding, throw out your well rehearsed scripts and playbooks and talk like human beings. And just make a decision that goes in one direction, any direction.
He has continued British support for Israel, it wasn’t a difficult conclusion to reach
Think he’s doing quite well honestly a little surprised
I back starmer . Pisses me off how much stick he gets.
This is hardly surprising.
Someone once said that in order for the Labour Party to survive the death of Communism, it had to go to venture capitalist ideals to survive.
It did so under Tony Blair.
Until they enforce ethical socialism, they are just nicer sounding Tories, obsessed with economics to the detrement of social circumstances.
Until they figure this out, nothing will really change – and that’s without the threat of authoritarian governments globally, and recent political corruption.
Frankly, this is the first time in my 26 years that I’ve felt we’ve had an actual politician at the helm, and someone whose primary interests are in improving this country.
It has felt, to me, like one of the most productive years in well over a decade. Now, I’m not naive and I’m not a blind follower of my party, but my god if it hasn’t been a breath of fresh air to see real accounting happening, and hard decisions being made.
Method and execution aside (although both of these have been better than, or at least on a par with, the previous 14 years), I believe we’re in steady hands.
They are absolutely smashing it, our voting base makes me despair.
Inaction over Israel’s genocide, completely dicking over the trans community on very, very shaky grounds (and that’s being generous), the courting of the reform vote, the way he came to power within the Labour party
Yeah he’s a bit of an unpopular one for a lot of people