Iâm confused, is this like a John âSnowâ situation?
Why would orphans abandon their parentâs name just because theyâre dead?
Is this for specially **abandoned** children where the parents are unknown? Is it formalised by regional Italian language? So many questions lol.
SirDaeltanFernagdor on
It is also interesting to think about the etymology of those names: a few of them just mean “found” or variations of it (TrovĂČ, Trovato); others mean “abandoned”, with significant variation (Esposto, Esposito, Degli Esposti, Proietti); others invoke God (Diotisalvi, Diotallevi, Deodato, Diodato, Diolaiuti, Delaiti) or His home (Casadei, Cadei)…
TailleventCH on
I remember Umberto Eco explaining his surname was an abandoned child one. Apparently, it’s the acronym for “ex caelis oblatus”, Latin for “given by the sky”, and it was put in church registers for such children.
GiuseppeScarpa on
And the award for the *most tactful spoiler* goes to Siracusa and east Sicily with D’Ignoti which means exactly (child) “of unknown” (parents) as in the sentence “figlio di ignoti”
nim_opet on
Del Mondo!!! Love it
Legitimate_Ship_5068 on
Orfanelli has to be a joke
Holiday_Neck_6241 on
Fun fact: reading old archives from my small hometown in Campania, I found an abandoned child whoâinstead of “Esposito” or other variationsâwas given the name “Lorenzo de Medici”
I guess there were some fans of Renaissance Florence
bronzinorns on
It’s also a reason why there are so many people whose surname is Martin in France. They have ancestors who were abandoned/orphaned and they were named after St. Martin of Tours (known for charity and various canals)
dazib on
Diotallevi, Diolaiuti and Diotisalvi are crazy
popica312 on
The poor orphans with the name ‘Orphanelli de Papa’
DiNkLeDoOkZ on
I imagine not everyone with this name is orphaned, right? Some of them become family names? I can think of many footballers with these names and Iâd be surprised if that many of them are orphans.
Realistic-Card3663 on
Trovato (“found”) is such a sad name.
MegaLemonCola on
Friuli calling orphans âof Pityâ lol
riffraff on
I never knew Colombo was a foundling’s name, explains why there’s so many!
ImNotNormal19 on
Interesting, in Spain we do/used to do the same, most common surname for orphans is/was ExpĂłsito
DublinKabyle on
Trovato đłđłđł Thatâs a tough one !
Glum_Manager on
It Is missing Rossi, Bianchi, Verdi and Neri (Reds, Whites, Greens and Blacks) as often used to divide the orphans in different rooms or houses.
a_red_crayola on
meanwhile sardinia is chilling
Dotcaprachiappa on
There are no orphans in Sardegna
viktorbir on
Orphans? Sorry? Orphans keep the names of their parents.
Those are surnames for ABANDONED children. Quite different.
PS. One typical in Catalonia was Deulofeu, meaning «god made him».Âč You could also get the name of the day’s saint, so if you were found on 24th June your surname might be Santjoan, meaning «Saint John». GrĂ cia, «Grace», and Ventura, «fortune», «destiny», were other possibilities. It seems Trobat, «found», was also used, but nowadays in Catalonia only 26 people carry this surname. No idea in Valencia, the Balearic Islands or Northern Catalonia.
Âč There are other variants as Donadeu, Deudat, Deusdat, Deulovol, Deufel… (gift from god, given by god, god wants him, god made him…)
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Toscana is soo sweet dude “Inocents” đ
Iâm confused, is this like a John âSnowâ situation?
Why would orphans abandon their parentâs name just because theyâre dead?
Is this for specially **abandoned** children where the parents are unknown? Is it formalised by regional Italian language? So many questions lol.
It is also interesting to think about the etymology of those names: a few of them just mean “found” or variations of it (TrovĂČ, Trovato); others mean “abandoned”, with significant variation (Esposto, Esposito, Degli Esposti, Proietti); others invoke God (Diotisalvi, Diotallevi, Deodato, Diodato, Diolaiuti, Delaiti) or His home (Casadei, Cadei)…
I remember Umberto Eco explaining his surname was an abandoned child one. Apparently, it’s the acronym for “ex caelis oblatus”, Latin for “given by the sky”, and it was put in church registers for such children.
And the award for the *most tactful spoiler* goes to Siracusa and east Sicily with D’Ignoti which means exactly (child) “of unknown” (parents) as in the sentence “figlio di ignoti”
Del Mondo!!! Love it
Orfanelli has to be a joke
Fun fact: reading old archives from my small hometown in Campania, I found an abandoned child whoâinstead of “Esposito” or other variationsâwas given the name “Lorenzo de Medici”
I guess there were some fans of Renaissance Florence
It’s also a reason why there are so many people whose surname is Martin in France. They have ancestors who were abandoned/orphaned and they were named after St. Martin of Tours (known for charity and various canals)
Diotallevi, Diolaiuti and Diotisalvi are crazy
The poor orphans with the name ‘Orphanelli de Papa’
I imagine not everyone with this name is orphaned, right? Some of them become family names? I can think of many footballers with these names and Iâd be surprised if that many of them are orphans.
Trovato (“found”) is such a sad name.
Friuli calling orphans âof Pityâ lol
I never knew Colombo was a foundling’s name, explains why there’s so many!
Interesting, in Spain we do/used to do the same, most common surname for orphans is/was ExpĂłsito
Trovato đłđłđł Thatâs a tough one !
It Is missing Rossi, Bianchi, Verdi and Neri (Reds, Whites, Greens and Blacks) as often used to divide the orphans in different rooms or houses.
meanwhile sardinia is chilling
There are no orphans in Sardegna
Orphans? Sorry? Orphans keep the names of their parents.
Those are surnames for ABANDONED children. Quite different.
PS. One typical in Catalonia was Deulofeu, meaning «god made him».Âč You could also get the name of the day’s saint, so if you were found on 24th June your surname might be Santjoan, meaning «Saint John». GrĂ cia, «Grace», and Ventura, «fortune», «destiny», were other possibilities. It seems Trobat, «found», was also used, but nowadays in Catalonia only 26 people carry this surname. No idea in Valencia, the Balearic Islands or Northern Catalonia.
Âč There are other variants as Donadeu, Deudat, Deusdat, Deulovol, Deufel… (gift from god, given by god, god wants him, god made him…)