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    Il ministro ha chiesto di prendere in considerazione corsi di gaeltacht obbligatori

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    2. Character_Emu1676 on

      Lads, we have to rescue the Irish language somehow, and immersion is the best way to spark that natural interest.

      If a trip to the Gaeltachtanna can be made part of the secondary curriculum, what’s the harm?

    3. cian87 on

      There’s a pile of reasons that this is unworkable, but there’s one absolutely massive one.

      There isn’t enough capacity in the existing Gaeltacht colleges for this and I doubt it would even be possible to spin up enough capacity either.

      It is already a significant struggle to get Bean an Tí’s despite there being financial incentives and capacity is falling, not rising, due to that – article from 2 years ago showing a college that’s down to a quarter of its capacity per run, and doing 2 shorter runs not 3:

      [Bean an tí shortages make this a ‘challenging’ summer for Gaeltacht communities – The Irish Times](https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/06/27/bean-an-ti-shortages-make-this-a-challenging-summer-for-gaeltacht-communities/)

    4. No_Donkey456 on

      I’m actually all for that.

      However the question has to be asked.

      Who pays?

      We need to do more for our language. I’d love to see things like place names only written in Irish, menus in restaurants displayed in Irish etc.

    6. PoppedCork on

      I thought they weren’t going to try and kill it off anymore!

    7. LucyVialli on

      Making things mandatory is bound to make people like them, right? Right?

    9. brbrcrbtr on

      Can any of the rich kids who went to the Gaeltacht actually speak Irish after it or were ye all too busy riding in the bushes to learn anything

    11. ThePostMoogle on

      I know for some people it was a really good experience but I loathed my time there and it just reinforced Irish as something school made me do. A stay in the Gaeltacht is not a on-size-fits-all solution.

      Further incentivising it is one thing and I see plenty of value in that, but support for mandatory attendance would be a deal-breaker for me when voting.

    12. BazingaQQ on

      There would have been an almighty rebellion if they tried this on me when I was a kid. I had way too much Irish as it was, sending me across country to furher their mistakes I had of told o fuck off and withdrawn completely.

      I’d love to know how the plan on forcing ‘mandafory’ visits. What are the consequences they plan in threatening people with? Are we going.back to the days where if you failed the whole Leaving?

      Yeah, because that REALLY worked out well, didn’t it?

    13. BazingaQQ on

      There would have been an almighty rebellion if they tried this on me when I was a kid. I had way too much Irish as it was, sending me across country to furher their mistakes I had of told o fuck off and withdrawn completely.

      I’d love to know how the plan on forcing ‘mandafory’ visits. What are the consequences they plan in threatening people with? Are we going.back to the days where if you failed the whole Leaving?

      Yeah, because that REALLY worked out well, didn’t it?

    14. eo37 on

      Cause making Irish mandatory on the curriculum has worked out well so far

    15. Difficult-Worry-2649 on

      Despite this being a completely insincere suggestion by an idiotic FF gombeen – said with the sole intention of getting himself on the news – I actually think it would be a brilliant idea and could be made to work.

    17. wet-paint on

      Fuck, a two week holiday to Connemara in the middle of the school year with all my school mates? Fucking class!

      That said, I went to the Gaeltacht voluntarily, so I’m. Iased.

    18. Backrow6 on

      Better to subsidise it so more kids can go to the existing colleges. Let the colleges expand gradually if demand picks up.

    19. mrlinkwii on

      >three-week mandatory Gaeltacht course for every Leaving Certificate student studying Irish.

      fuck no , just let it be optional

    21. Firm_Apricot2546 on

      I was banished to the Gaeltacht for three weeks as part of my primary teacher training. I have no doubt at all that my Irish actually got worse there.

      Was one of the most pointless (and expensive) things I’ve ever done. We were bled dry down there, and the locals couldn’t string a word of Irish together. One classmate got roared at by a barman for trying to order in Irish.

      I love the language. Genuinely love it. But this proposal is a heap of shite and they’d be more in line to actually remove the same thing for teachers in training while this topic is current. If your Irish isn’t good enough after fourteen years in school and already studying it for a few years in college, then I’m afraid three weeks in the Gaeltacht isn’t going to save you.

    22. BandPitiful2876 on

      This is bollox, like, really out of touch with the modern day LC student. Mandatory doesn’t work, the language is making a real come back and has become cool once again.
      Try reforming the oral exam and getting rid of the sraith pictiúr or bumping the oral exam up to 60% and get rid of some of the prose. Things like these could potentially work.
      The modern LC student, probably has a summer jobs. Three weeks is a long time and many Gaeltacht courses are now only offering two weeks. Having taught in a couple of Coláistí, I know that two weeks is more than enough time to give to students making real progress with the language.
      I agree, being able to go to the Gaeltacht is an amazing opportunity for any school student, encourage rather than compel.

    23. irishemperor on

      I’m surprised all the Irish colleges aren’t already IPAS centres. Maybe if they had French / German / Spanish / Chinese colleges too it’d take the pressure off the Irish colleges / gaeltachts + you’d have to have some kind of means tested grant for low income families (to do what they want to do – there isn’t the capacity & some people can’t afford it).

    24. Gordianus_El_Gringo on

      I never did Irish in primary or secondary school but I did do language in secondary, continued it in university and actually ended up becoming a language teacher but there is no way in hell you’d drag me as a teenager to some middle of nowhere place in the west for a mandatory three weeks. I would be incredibly resentful.

      You can’t just force people, especially young people, to embrace and use an essentially dead language. You have to make it more desirable

    25. Dungeon_tam3r on

      For most people it is harder and harder to learn languages later in life. For a lot of people they are only ever capable of learning one language. We need to do something to bring Irish back properly but no matter what we do it will take generations.

    26. IntentionFalse8822 on

      So after 100 years of forcing all children to study Irish up to leaving cert and ending up with the language still in terminal decline their solution is maybe we haven’t forced people hard enough.

      They need to stop this lunacy and use the money on schemes to encourage people to speak Irish not force them.

    27. yleennoc on

      Can’t we just start increasing the number of gaelscoil to the point where all are Irish speaking?

      Then make Irish an option for the leaving cert.

    28. EGriff1981 on

      It reads as “irrelevant backbench TD wants 2 seconds in the spotlight with ridiculous suggestion that cannot possibly work for any number of reasons”. If after 14 years of learning the language and a conversation cannot be held, perhaps the way it’s taught should be looked at? Doesn’t seem to be fit for purpose.

    29. Able_Bake9074 on

      Ought to be a condition of naturalization citizenship.

    30. FuckThisShizzle on

      Forcing it is not going to work they way they want to.

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