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    1. Tbh, im not as annoyed about this as i might have been mainly because I think the Eastern Leg Route that was decided on was a load of shite.

    2. Acceptable-Pin2939 on

      Bought at insane cost and then dithered about with by our previous all genius overlords and probably sold off for cheap v

      Thanks Tories.

    3. cosmic_monsters_inc on

      And the other day they on about a train to Berlin. They can barely get one up north.

    4. winkwinknudge_nudge on

      But I was told by people here how much better Labour would be with HS2 and handling the North…

    5. No-Beyond-4054 on

      HS2 hate, uniting the left and right together. Flogging a dead horse.

    6. To be completely honest, I think HS2 east was dead after the IRP of 2021 & i don’t think there’s much will to bring it back unlike the leg to Manchester & Crewe. Although there will be some provision for some form of spur east from HS2 remaining at Delta Junction, so i suspect that a tiny spur towards Tamworth might be built from HS2 just to at least allow some MML services to switch to HS2, but that is also unlikely.

    7. CrushingPride on

      Let’s do a quick comparison to Japan’s high speed rail:

      **Tokaido Line:**

      Building time: 1959-1964

      Length: 515.5km

      Top Speed: Initially 130 mph, later 177 mph

      Cost per km (in 2025 £): £26.8 million

      **Kyushu Line:**

      Building time: 1991-2004

      Length: 127km in 2004, later extended

      Top Speed: Currently 160 mph

      Cost per km (in 2025 £): £44 million

      **HS2 Phase 1:**

      Building time: 2019 – currently expected after 2033

      Length: 225 km

      Top Speed: Planned 225 mph

      Cost per km (in 2025 £): **£257 to £300 million** based on different recent estimates

      Note that approximately £2.5 billion has been spent on parts of HS2 that have since been scrapped.
      Also The HS2 line *does* have more underground sections than the two Japanese lines mentioned.

      Sources: The wikipedia pages of each line, Full Fact, and “Shinkansen: From bullet train to symbol of modern Japan” by Christopher Hood.

    8. anonypanda on

      Insanely short sighted. The tories legacy of failure will haunt the country for decades to come.

    9. Slight_Art_6121 on

      What a waste of money. And some people on these pages want that the UK government to become the owner of infrastructure such as water and sole operational manager of rail.

      Is there anymore evidence needed that government is by its nature incompetent on this scale (and on top of that very much driven by political rather than economic forces).

    10. Suspicious-Half2593 on

      Guarantee they sell it for cheaper than they brought it to their mates

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