Everyday I read a news article that someone has been let of a prison sentence for having thousands of child porn images. Why do they bother making new laws when they aren’t enforcing the ones we have already? Is it just so it looks like they care or to keep the army of civil servants in a job?
Kleptowizard on
Lame, also but late. Wasn’t it one of theirs that was found dead from auto erotica asphyxiation with an orange in their mouth, no porn inspiring him. Just other out of touch rich southen folks who couldn’t care less about the rest of the country…Let us wank for God’s sake. Do your jobs and stop wasting our money on social programs.
SpoofExcel on
Ah yes. This will definitely be enforceable and also is 100% the cause of domestic violence.
golosala on
Glad to hear the police have solved all the rapes and sexual assaults. It’s nice they’re all dealt with so they can focus some attention on preventing people from watching consensual kink content. Who knows what damaged that could have caused.
Jeq0 on
No wonder the UK is becoming the laughing stock of the world.
LonelyStranger8467 on
I’ve known multiple women say they masturbated to the scene in Natural Born Killers.
This law is pointless grandstanding.
tempy1256 on
I think the reason for this is because it’s being viewed as a ‘normal’ sex act by teens.
Folk into BDSM are all about informed consent and respecting boundaries, limits, safety.
Other folk especially impressionable young adults thinking it’s normal are more likely to cause serious damage or death to their partner- usually the girl. So chalk this up for a win for women’s safety
Quick-Exit-5601 on
Why should I give a fuck about what’s illegal in UK if we are about to have a massive increase in VPNs?
Responsible_Loss8246 on
The number of women who overtly say they enjoy being strangled and choked during sex is crazy. I think it’s fair game if people are consenting to it, it’s a pretty mild kink.
I’m not sure what this law is designed to achieve. Are they trying to influence people’s sex lives? Seems very nanny-state-like, which would fit with what British governments like to do.
I also find the language in the article quite startling:
> The announcement, as campaigned for by Jessica Asato and others, follows the Independent Porn Review, conducted by Baroness Gabby Bertin, which found that media sources such as pornography have effectively established strangulation during sex as a **‘sexual norm’,** and a belief that strangling a partner during sex is ‘safe’ because it is believed to be non-fatal despite overwhelming evidence that is is believed there is no safe way to strangle a person.
What is a sexual norm? Do we have a list of what these norms are?
Does the government have a booklet on how sex should take place and what should happen during government-approved sex?
Are they going to ban porn where women are trampling on men’s balls too? After all, there’s no safe way to stamp on a man’s balls.
__Alexstrasza__ on
Banning consensual acts is sure to fix the problems! >! /s !<
ComfortableJeans on
Would that mean a punishment for *viewing* that material, or just producing that material?
I have to imagine there are a whole host of issue with this law.
How do you define *strangulation*? Is it just having hands around a partners throat?
At what point does a squeeze become a strangle? Is it when there’s a visible grip, or just when they turn purple?
Does a strangle have to be done with hands, or are we also counting a from behind, prone position with an arm around the throat in a choke-hold position?
If viewing the material is illegal, who will remove what I’m pretty sure would be thousands and thousands of videos already online? How would we stop every other western country from producing that content, uploading it to western sites and people from out country accidentally seeing it?
I mean, these videos are going to be on mainstream, HTTPS enabled sites. Presumably sites where you need to hand over your ID to access soon. They’re about as secure as they’ve ever been, and they’re STILL going to be hosting this choking content.
Who is this meant to protect? Consenting adults? Because we’ve *just* brought in a law that prohibits anyone who hadn’t handed their ID over to the government from viewing pornography.
Unless we’re admitting to ourselves that this new law doesn’t really do anything other that give a third party, hired by the government, access to a lot of peoples incredibly embarrassing, potentially life destroying data in this up coming, inevitable leak?
Before even getting into all the issues with government bodies intruding on what two consenting adults decide to do with no victims of said acts, I don’t even understand how you’d put any version of this law into practice.
Euclid_Interloper on
Judge: ‘You stand accused of being a dirty, kinky boy. How do you plead?’
Accused: ‘Guilty ~~daddy~~ your honour’
Jury: ‘We’d pass judgement, but we all got stuck in washing machines’
No_Pea-1 on
Good. It has become far too normalised.
And I hate that since “strangulation” isn’t a sexy word, people call it “choking”.
TwiztedZero on
Good. Strangling is really nutty behavior anyways. Outlaw it world wide.
Wigspraynaynay on
Why, though?
Why make more laws for an underfunded police to go after – and why make what two consensual adults do illegal?
mosh-4-jesus on
ok so i just read through;
1: define strangulation, because they fucking don’t. are we talking niche fetish with garottes and leather gloves, or are we talking bare hand on neck with very little pressure? if you’re banning shit, better be fucking specific. the wording is “Pornography depicting any act of strangulation to be made illegal through Crime and Policing Bill”, that is not fucking specific.
2: everything mentioned in there is about women, still good to go on gay porn, yeah? obviously not, but ofc the censors don’t give a shit about gay porn.
3: maybe if you took a more hands-on approach with regulating the porn *industry*, you could actually enforce safe work practices and protect sex worke- oh wait they don’t give a FUCK about sex workers.
4: banning niche fetish porn is just gonna push those who seek it into the worst corners of the internet, which is probably worse!
all in all i think banning it is a Bad Idea which prolly makes me some kind of filthy degenerate who should be locked up but idk i think bans with broad language and a complete disregard for entire swathes of the medium and no long-term plan to actually make that medium safe is fucking stupid and just a point-scoring exercise.
Just_passing-55 on
Last time they did this it was banning face sitting. But at the same time it was a good distraction from the other laws the were on the same bill that we a bit more questionable.
Upstairs-Farm7106 on
Maturing is realising a substantially large amount of women like to be dominated / strangled by a man they trust in bed.
There’s a reason why 50 Shades Of Grey is one of the top books for women in recent years.
LordLucian on
Of course they are, I cant wait for the first person to be convicted of watching strangulation porn.
Ludicrous ass clown country we live in.
Deep_Banana_6521 on
As long as they leave busty latinas in pornography legal, you won’t hear a complaint from me.
MySongYourBeetroots on
So glad we’re tackling the things that really matter like a random blanket ban on another kink in porn. I’m sure that will definitely stop the core issue.
trmetroidmaniac on
I’m not going to complain about this. It’s not safe to choke people. Consent doesn’t make it okay.
vengarlof on
That makes sense!
Let’s make more laws about adult material rather than actual enforce current laws about protecting people from assaults etc
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Everyday I read a news article that someone has been let of a prison sentence for having thousands of child porn images. Why do they bother making new laws when they aren’t enforcing the ones we have already? Is it just so it looks like they care or to keep the army of civil servants in a job?
Lame, also but late. Wasn’t it one of theirs that was found dead from auto erotica asphyxiation with an orange in their mouth, no porn inspiring him. Just other out of touch rich southen folks who couldn’t care less about the rest of the country…Let us wank for God’s sake. Do your jobs and stop wasting our money on social programs.
Ah yes. This will definitely be enforceable and also is 100% the cause of domestic violence.
Glad to hear the police have solved all the rapes and sexual assaults. It’s nice they’re all dealt with so they can focus some attention on preventing people from watching consensual kink content. Who knows what damaged that could have caused.
No wonder the UK is becoming the laughing stock of the world.
I’ve known multiple women say they masturbated to the scene in Natural Born Killers.
This law is pointless grandstanding.
I think the reason for this is because it’s being viewed as a ‘normal’ sex act by teens.
Folk into BDSM are all about informed consent and respecting boundaries, limits, safety.
Other folk especially impressionable young adults thinking it’s normal are more likely to cause serious damage or death to their partner- usually the girl. So chalk this up for a win for women’s safety
Why should I give a fuck about what’s illegal in UK if we are about to have a massive increase in VPNs?
The number of women who overtly say they enjoy being strangled and choked during sex is crazy. I think it’s fair game if people are consenting to it, it’s a pretty mild kink.
I’m not sure what this law is designed to achieve. Are they trying to influence people’s sex lives? Seems very nanny-state-like, which would fit with what British governments like to do.
I also find the language in the article quite startling:
> The announcement, as campaigned for by Jessica Asato and others, follows the Independent Porn Review, conducted by Baroness Gabby Bertin, which found that media sources such as pornography have effectively established strangulation during sex as a **‘sexual norm’,** and a belief that strangling a partner during sex is ‘safe’ because it is believed to be non-fatal despite overwhelming evidence that is is believed there is no safe way to strangle a person.
What is a sexual norm? Do we have a list of what these norms are?
Does the government have a booklet on how sex should take place and what should happen during government-approved sex?
Are they going to ban porn where women are trampling on men’s balls too? After all, there’s no safe way to stamp on a man’s balls.
Banning consensual acts is sure to fix the problems! >! /s !<
Would that mean a punishment for *viewing* that material, or just producing that material?
I have to imagine there are a whole host of issue with this law.
How do you define *strangulation*? Is it just having hands around a partners throat?
At what point does a squeeze become a strangle? Is it when there’s a visible grip, or just when they turn purple?
Does a strangle have to be done with hands, or are we also counting a from behind, prone position with an arm around the throat in a choke-hold position?
If viewing the material is illegal, who will remove what I’m pretty sure would be thousands and thousands of videos already online? How would we stop every other western country from producing that content, uploading it to western sites and people from out country accidentally seeing it?
I mean, these videos are going to be on mainstream, HTTPS enabled sites. Presumably sites where you need to hand over your ID to access soon. They’re about as secure as they’ve ever been, and they’re STILL going to be hosting this choking content.
Who is this meant to protect? Consenting adults? Because we’ve *just* brought in a law that prohibits anyone who hadn’t handed their ID over to the government from viewing pornography.
Unless we’re admitting to ourselves that this new law doesn’t really do anything other that give a third party, hired by the government, access to a lot of peoples incredibly embarrassing, potentially life destroying data in this up coming, inevitable leak?
Before even getting into all the issues with government bodies intruding on what two consenting adults decide to do with no victims of said acts, I don’t even understand how you’d put any version of this law into practice.
Judge: ‘You stand accused of being a dirty, kinky boy. How do you plead?’
Accused: ‘Guilty ~~daddy~~ your honour’
Jury: ‘We’d pass judgement, but we all got stuck in washing machines’
Good. It has become far too normalised.
And I hate that since “strangulation” isn’t a sexy word, people call it “choking”.
Good. Strangling is really nutty behavior anyways. Outlaw it world wide.
Why, though?
Why make more laws for an underfunded police to go after – and why make what two consensual adults do illegal?
ok so i just read through;
1: define strangulation, because they fucking don’t. are we talking niche fetish with garottes and leather gloves, or are we talking bare hand on neck with very little pressure? if you’re banning shit, better be fucking specific. the wording is “Pornography depicting any act of strangulation to be made illegal through Crime and Policing Bill”, that is not fucking specific.
2: everything mentioned in there is about women, still good to go on gay porn, yeah? obviously not, but ofc the censors don’t give a shit about gay porn.
3: maybe if you took a more hands-on approach with regulating the porn *industry*, you could actually enforce safe work practices and protect sex worke- oh wait they don’t give a FUCK about sex workers.
4: banning niche fetish porn is just gonna push those who seek it into the worst corners of the internet, which is probably worse!
all in all i think banning it is a Bad Idea which prolly makes me some kind of filthy degenerate who should be locked up but idk i think bans with broad language and a complete disregard for entire swathes of the medium and no long-term plan to actually make that medium safe is fucking stupid and just a point-scoring exercise.
Last time they did this it was banning face sitting. But at the same time it was a good distraction from the other laws the were on the same bill that we a bit more questionable.
Maturing is realising a substantially large amount of women like to be dominated / strangled by a man they trust in bed.
There’s a reason why 50 Shades Of Grey is one of the top books for women in recent years.
Of course they are, I cant wait for the first person to be convicted of watching strangulation porn.
Ludicrous ass clown country we live in.
As long as they leave busty latinas in pornography legal, you won’t hear a complaint from me.
So glad we’re tackling the things that really matter like a random blanket ban on another kink in porn. I’m sure that will definitely stop the core issue.
I’m not going to complain about this. It’s not safe to choke people. Consent doesn’t make it okay.
That makes sense!
Let’s make more laws about adult material rather than actual enforce current laws about protecting people from assaults etc