Had a hard time finding bread that didn’t have 5+g of added sugar/100g when i lived in Southern California 7 years ago. Surprised that’s not mentioned as one of the main differences and potential causes.
leonardo-990 on
Food* would work as well for the title…
TrueRignak on
> When they eat wheat products in the United States, his patients say, they have bloating, nausea, diarrhea, constipation, joint pain, fatigue or brain fog. When they eat wheat products — particularly bread — in Western Europe, they have fewer or milder symptoms.
Okay, that’s strange.
> Most bread in the United States is fermented much faster — for just an hour or two — leaving more gluten and FODMAPs that can cause symptoms.
Wait, what? They just don’t know how to make bread?
> To shorten the production time, bread manufacturers in the United States typically use a more commercial, high-speed process, Dr. Carver said. This can result in bread that is too dense, so manufacturers add ingredients like dough conditioners, strengthening agents, extra gluten and emulsifiers to improve its texture, as well as preservatives to lengthen its shelf life.
In fact, it’s not really bread that they are doing, right ?
> Wheat growers in the United States sometimes apply glyphosate to the crop just before harvest. This can leave glyphosate residues on the grain.
Wtf. Is it even supposed to be food ?
Dyn-O-mite_Rocketeer on
Of course the food is better here in Europe. In every conceivable way. One of the reasons Trump is so hell bent on imposing tariffs is because Europeans hardly buy anything American outside of tech products. Not the cars, the clothes or the food.
But the main reason we’re so much healthier is that our portions aren’t ridiculous and we get off our asses to get from a to b.
CheesyLala on
Better for you, and better in every other way too.
American bread is like some kind of sugary mush. No substance, flavour, texture, anything.
Give me a nice grainy sourdough any day. No sugar required.
AdventurousWater6122 on
My brother, who immigrated to America, his American wife says the food in Ireland tastes so much better than in the USA, this is something I’ve seen (anecdotally) repeated by americans who’ve visited Europe.
Everything, the bread the meat, the butter the cheese everything.
We dont buy the fancy stuff lidl all the way!
On an unrelated note, has anyone visited America since trumps second term started? my parents want to visit their grand kid but are worried about crossing into the US that there might be some issues.
PomegranateMinimum15 on
For the longest time I think theres something extra in American food that makes people more exhausted..I dont know but the demand of the usa wanting to change the eu food laws highlighted it for me. By the trump.administration is almost never out of “kindness”
(such a strange word. Old fashioned. According to potus – the p stands for something else today though)
The bread when I was in the usa. Was the first thing that freaked me out a bit. It stays well way too long.
But I dunno. Everything seems to come out now lately
im_bi_strapping on
I am baking my own bread recently and the cheapest wheat flour i can find has 12% protein.
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Yes, it’s bread, not cake.
non-paywall gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/24/well/eat/health-effects-bread-europe-united-states.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZE8.mSkP.Xxma9YofkyC7
Depends which variant you consume
Had a hard time finding bread that didn’t have 5+g of added sugar/100g when i lived in Southern California 7 years ago. Surprised that’s not mentioned as one of the main differences and potential causes.
Food* would work as well for the title…
> When they eat wheat products in the United States, his patients say, they have bloating, nausea, diarrhea, constipation, joint pain, fatigue or brain fog. When they eat wheat products — particularly bread — in Western Europe, they have fewer or milder symptoms.
Okay, that’s strange.
> Most bread in the United States is fermented much faster — for just an hour or two — leaving more gluten and FODMAPs that can cause symptoms.
Wait, what? They just don’t know how to make bread?
> To shorten the production time, bread manufacturers in the United States typically use a more commercial, high-speed process, Dr. Carver said. This can result in bread that is too dense, so manufacturers add ingredients like dough conditioners, strengthening agents, extra gluten and emulsifiers to improve its texture, as well as preservatives to lengthen its shelf life.
In fact, it’s not really bread that they are doing, right ?
> Wheat growers in the United States sometimes apply glyphosate to the crop just before harvest. This can leave glyphosate residues on the grain.
Wtf. Is it even supposed to be food ?
Of course the food is better here in Europe. In every conceivable way. One of the reasons Trump is so hell bent on imposing tariffs is because Europeans hardly buy anything American outside of tech products. Not the cars, the clothes or the food.
But the main reason we’re so much healthier is that our portions aren’t ridiculous and we get off our asses to get from a to b.
Better for you, and better in every other way too.
American bread is like some kind of sugary mush. No substance, flavour, texture, anything.
Give me a nice grainy sourdough any day. No sugar required.
My brother, who immigrated to America, his American wife says the food in Ireland tastes so much better than in the USA, this is something I’ve seen (anecdotally) repeated by americans who’ve visited Europe.
Everything, the bread the meat, the butter the cheese everything.
We dont buy the fancy stuff lidl all the way!
On an unrelated note, has anyone visited America since trumps second term started? my parents want to visit their grand kid but are worried about crossing into the US that there might be some issues.
For the longest time I think theres something extra in American food that makes people more exhausted..I dont know but the demand of the usa wanting to change the eu food laws highlighted it for me. By the trump.administration is almost never out of “kindness”
(such a strange word. Old fashioned. According to potus – the p stands for something else today though)
The bread when I was in the usa. Was the first thing that freaked me out a bit. It stays well way too long.
But I dunno. Everything seems to come out now lately
I am baking my own bread recently and the cheapest wheat flour i can find has 12% protein.