I’d expect most Russians to be in favour of the war. There are some genuine grievances that the government and media identify and then blow completely out of proportion.
The average Russian likely feels like the west has been ganging up on them since 1991 and that Putin is the saviour of the nation.
cuppaseb on
so basically war-NIMBYs
Ilkin0115 on
Of course, everyone is brave while they seat on their couch and sleep in their own bed.
eloyend on
Daily reminder “bad putin good russians” is just a myth. There’s plenty of evidence for such, but my favority was a street poll where they’ve lamented the war, the deaths, pointless stealing of land etc but when final question arrived: “who does Crimea belong to?” the answer was almost uniform “Crimea is ours”.
REPULSORO on
Some surveys are conducted, articles are written and some research is done, why?
In Russia, in any situation, use proportion 20-60-20 and will not mistake.
20 for 20 against 60 is neutral
Same proportion you can use for anything in Russia
Morepork69 on
They oppose being killed on the front line. But if it’s one of their comrades, that’s all good…..
BashkirTatar on
That’s right. I remember one video question where a man is asked if he is ready to fight for his country if he is called up? He answers yes, then he is asked to give his contacts so they can get in touch. His behavior changes and he asks “why do you need my contacts?” and leaves. In general, they support Russia’s aggression. This is not “Putin’s aggression”, this is precisely Russia’s aggression.
aigars2 on
Take war to Moscow and st. Petersburg and they will come to new realizations.
uncle_tlenny on
Pretty obvious, most of the people (regardless of their attitude towards the war) don’t want to be soldiers. Or at least don’t want to be the soldiers that participate in the war in Ukraine
dumnezero on
“rules for thee, but not for me”
Eric1491625 on
That’s basically most aggressive wars.
Look at the US on Iraq and Vietnam and it was basically the same. Americans really liked the idea of war but hated being a part of it. That’s why the draft was ended after Vietnam, precisely to enable Americans to support wars without being the ones fighting it.
Will9934 on
Unfortunate
GovernmentBig2749 on
Most Russians dont end up on the front, its mostly Russian non-slavic republics who are the bulk of the meat for the grinder
trebron55 on
War is completely fine as long as someone else does the dying.
Cannabis_Goose on
No different to any other country so. Though America and isreal are a bit more twisted.
A lot will activily go just to kill a Muslim. 🤷🏽♂️ same on the other sides.
In isreal locals go to drink wine and watch the people.on the other side of the border suffer.
Every country that goes to war propaganda in that country will have the ordinary people wishing death on the same of the opposite side.
Truth is there’s just a shit tonne of psychopaths in the world and evil will get you a lot further than being good.
Most of the big successful people in this world are ruthless with psychopathic traits. 🤷🏽♂️
Bobvankay on
Oh, so greedy AND cowardly.
QwertzOne on
Most people don’t want to get hurt, but at the same time systems that exists cause tremendous harm and people don’t really want to change them. Most people like to pretend they want better world, but in the end they understand little and they actually support oppressors.
We may say that we oppose the war, but do we really do everything that is possible to stop it or do we just pretend and provide enough support to not lose, but not enough to win? We’re just comfortable with people in Ukraine dying, because providing stronger support may harm the economy and economy is sacred, especially for those in power.
We’re being played by different powers and the real issue is that people are harmed world-wide and we ignore it. Some people die in pointless wars, some people starve, some people just wage labor their whole life, unable to afford even own place.
We shouldn’t live like that, future should be liberating, we should have hope and be happy that we’re building better future, but what do we get instead? Convicted rapist decides our future in Europe? Our leaders just accepting it like that, without asking us about anything? I’m supposed to enjoy life without hope, when we’re being sold like slaves to some imperium?
We might be near complete end of times. Yet another civilization that will fall, because we learnt nothing, while our oppressors just improve their methods, until we become completely obsolete and in the end, purged.
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I’d expect most Russians to be in favour of the war. There are some genuine grievances that the government and media identify and then blow completely out of proportion.
The average Russian likely feels like the west has been ganging up on them since 1991 and that Putin is the saviour of the nation.
so basically war-NIMBYs
Of course, everyone is brave while they seat on their couch and sleep in their own bed.
Daily reminder “bad putin good russians” is just a myth. There’s plenty of evidence for such, but my favority was a street poll where they’ve lamented the war, the deaths, pointless stealing of land etc but when final question arrived: “who does Crimea belong to?” the answer was almost uniform “Crimea is ours”.
Some surveys are conducted, articles are written and some research is done, why?
In Russia, in any situation, use proportion 20-60-20 and will not mistake.
20 for 20 against 60 is neutral
Same proportion you can use for anything in Russia
They oppose being killed on the front line. But if it’s one of their comrades, that’s all good…..
That’s right. I remember one video question where a man is asked if he is ready to fight for his country if he is called up? He answers yes, then he is asked to give his contacts so they can get in touch. His behavior changes and he asks “why do you need my contacts?” and leaves. In general, they support Russia’s aggression. This is not “Putin’s aggression”, this is precisely Russia’s aggression.
Take war to Moscow and st. Petersburg and they will come to new realizations.
Pretty obvious, most of the people (regardless of their attitude towards the war) don’t want to be soldiers. Or at least don’t want to be the soldiers that participate in the war in Ukraine
“rules for thee, but not for me”
That’s basically most aggressive wars.
Look at the US on Iraq and Vietnam and it was basically the same. Americans really liked the idea of war but hated being a part of it. That’s why the draft was ended after Vietnam, precisely to enable Americans to support wars without being the ones fighting it.
Unfortunate
Most Russians dont end up on the front, its mostly Russian non-slavic republics who are the bulk of the meat for the grinder
War is completely fine as long as someone else does the dying.
No different to any other country so. Though America and isreal are a bit more twisted.
A lot will activily go just to kill a Muslim. 🤷🏽♂️ same on the other sides.
In isreal locals go to drink wine and watch the people.on the other side of the border suffer.
Every country that goes to war propaganda in that country will have the ordinary people wishing death on the same of the opposite side.
Truth is there’s just a shit tonne of psychopaths in the world and evil will get you a lot further than being good.
Most of the big successful people in this world are ruthless with psychopathic traits. 🤷🏽♂️
Oh, so greedy AND cowardly.
Most people don’t want to get hurt, but at the same time systems that exists cause tremendous harm and people don’t really want to change them. Most people like to pretend they want better world, but in the end they understand little and they actually support oppressors.
We may say that we oppose the war, but do we really do everything that is possible to stop it or do we just pretend and provide enough support to not lose, but not enough to win? We’re just comfortable with people in Ukraine dying, because providing stronger support may harm the economy and economy is sacred, especially for those in power.
We’re being played by different powers and the real issue is that people are harmed world-wide and we ignore it. Some people die in pointless wars, some people starve, some people just wage labor their whole life, unable to afford even own place.
We shouldn’t live like that, future should be liberating, we should have hope and be happy that we’re building better future, but what do we get instead? Convicted rapist decides our future in Europe? Our leaders just accepting it like that, without asking us about anything? I’m supposed to enjoy life without hope, when we’re being sold like slaves to some imperium?
We might be near complete end of times. Yet another civilization that will fall, because we learnt nothing, while our oppressors just improve their methods, until we become completely obsolete and in the end, purged.