L’impegno dell’UE per $ 250 miliardi di importazioni di energia statunitense è delirante
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EUROPE, July 28 (Reuters)
There are strong echoes of Donald Trump’s failed trade deal with China from his first term as U.S. president in the framework agreement reached with the European Union.
Trump and EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced the deal for a 15% tariff on U.S. imports of EU goods at the U.S. leader’s golf course in Scotland on Sunday.
But more important than the 15% tariff rate was the apparent commitment by the EU to massively ramp up energy imports from the United States.
Hard-to-electrify industries that were seen as ideal candidates for green hydrogen have found that the transition looks prohibitively expensive.
The agreement calls for EU imports of U.S. energy, which currently are mainly crude oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG), of $250 billion a year for three years.
This is a delusional level of imports that the EU has virtually no chance of meeting, and one that U.S. producers would also struggle to supply.
Even if the EU did manage somehow to boost its energy imports from the United States to the $250 billion a year mark, it would also prove massively disruptive for energy flows around the rest of world.
The numbers show the scale of the challenge.
The 28 members of the EU imported 3.38 billion barrels of seaborne crude oil in 2024, according to data compiled by energy analysts Kpler.
Assuming the 2025 volume stays the same and the price paid per barrel averages around $70, this means the EU will pay about $236.6 billion for its crude.
The EU’s imports from the United States were 573 million barrels in 2024, which if replicated this year would be valued at around $40.1 billion.
For LNG, the EU imported 82.68 million metric tons in 2024, which would have cost around $51.26 billion assuming an average price of around $12 per million British thermal units (mmBtu).
Imports of the super-chilled fuel from the United States were 35.13 million tons in 2024, worth about $21.78 billion.
The EU also buys coal from the United States, the bulk being higher-value metallurgical coal used to make steel.
Total EU imports of metallurgical coal in 2024 were worth $6.72 billion, assuming an average price of $200 per ton, with those from the United States valued at $2.67 billion.
Putting together the value of EU imports of U.S. crude oil, LNG and metallurgical coal gives a 2024 total of around $64.55 billion. This is about 26% of the $250 billion the EU is supposed to spend on U.S. energy a year under the framework agreement.
If the EU did ramp up its imports of U.S. crude, LNG and metallurgical coal to $250 billion, it would account for 85% of its total spending on those energy commodities.
US EXPORTS
The United States exported 1.45 billion barrels of crude in 2024, according to Kpler, which would be worth $101.5 billion at a price of $70 a barrel.
U.S. shipments of LNG were 87.05 million tons in 2024, which would be worth about $54 billion at an average price of $12 per mmBtu.
The U.S. exported 51.53 million tons of metallurgical coal in 2024, worth $10.3 billion at an average price of $200 a ton.
Putting together the value of all three energy commodities gives a total of $165.8 billion, meaning that even if the EU bought the entire volume it would still fall well short of the $250 billion.
The scale of the delusion probably exceeds what Trump and China agreed in their so-called Phase 1 trade deal in December 2019, under which China was supposed to buy $200 billion of additional U.S. energy by the end of 2021.
The reality is that China never even came close to buying that level, and its imports of U.S. energy didn’t even reach what they were before Trump launched his first trade war in 2017.
There are a few caveats when looking at the framework agreement between Trump and Von der Leyen.
The first is that not all the details are known and the $250 billion of energy is also said to include nuclear fuel, although this will only be a small value even if included.
The second is the deal will probably include refined fuels, with U.S. exports to the EU of products such as diesel, being almost 110 million barrels in 2024, worth about $10.9 billion assuming a price of $100 a barrel.
But it’s still clear that the commitment to buy $250 billion in U.S. energy is completely unrealistic and unachievable.
The smart people in the room must know this, begging the question as to why agree to what is obviously a ridiculous number?
What happens when the inevitable failure is realised?
Perhaps the EU is hoping for the same outcome as China did with the first trade war with Trump in 2019.
Run down the clock, talk nice, and hope the next U.S. president is easier to deal with.
We basically agreed to buy an absurd amount of crude oil and coal. Much more then we even need. Yeah that’s just what the world needs. Amping up on coal instead of trying to go the other direction and helping the planet out a bit
This article fails to account for the fact that Trump plans to sell federal lands to people that will expand existing mining, oil and gas fields to previously protected areas. Now the corporations have “guaranteed” sales volumes it’s a no lose situation for a few billionaires to make more money. Even without that lifting some regulations can rapidly increase production as well. This administration is all about wealth and power building for a few elites.
are we not going green anytime soon now?
Of course it’s not going to happen, just like Japans “550 billion investment” isn’t going to. Green energy sources are becoming cheaper and cheaper and practically all european countries are dropping fossil fuels. Not as fast as I’d like, but the change is there and at this point probably unstoppable. Battery storage is getting better all the time too.
Promises cost nothing but sound great. So, EU promised whatever with no intention of living up to it and Trump happily accepted it as he has a win to report. that’s a clean win-win and no one will do the tally later just like no one did it with China.
Member states don’t care what deal von der Leyen signed. They are not obliged to buy weapons or LNG from US.
I still don’t see how this part of the agreement is any way enforcable.
EU can negotiate on tariffs as a bloc, but the part about energy and weapons imports is outside of their purview. Ursula can say whatever she wants to Trump, but it’s not the EU that will be doing the actual importing, but rather the individual member states. And I don’t see most of them saying “Yeah, sure, we’ll do that”.
Is the plan to divide the expected spending into “portions” based on member states’ economies, set those as goals, and then punish non-compliant countries? Because if so, the EU won’t last until the end of Trump’s term.
The only “sensible” read I can make here is that EU agreed to this knowing there was no way to actually enforce it. This would mean that once a year or two passes and Trump sees the “targets” aren’t being met, the ball would be in his court to either let it slide or to once again escalate.
So even if we go with this read (that this is a stalling tactic by the EU), was this worth the massive hit to EU support that this debacle will do when it comes to public opinion? And what is being done to make the best of the time that was bought?
Why are people here pretending that EU made a deal only with the orange idiot?
Why would you think that US admin will let EU back down on a deal that is extremely beneficial to the US?
What happens when in a year Trump says “Yoz didn’t fulfill your part, here’s a 100% tariff”?
People need to chill, EU is just helping Trump to bullshit the US media and its supporters. Just a few months ago Qatar and W.H. signed 1.2 Trillion dollar agreement: [https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar/)
Qatar’s GDP is 200 Billion USD. It’s obvious BS but makes Trump happy for a while. It doesn’t have any specifics and no way to enforce anything, in few month down the road if the Epstein stuff gets hot again he might be like “where’s the money EU”, then just sign a 2 trillion agreement. Write “2 Trillion dollar huge success” on a paper and let him show it to the cameras.
People need to chill, EU is just helping Trump to bullshit the US media and its supporters in exchange of him leaving us alone.
Look at all the deals he keeps signing, Just a few months ago Qatar and W.H. signed 1.2 Trillion dollar agreement: [https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar/)
Qatar’s GDP is 200 Billion USD. It’s obvious BS but makes Trump happy for a while. It doesn’t have any specifics and no way to enforce anything, in few month down the road if the Epstein stuff gets hot again he might be like “where’s the money EU”, then just sign a 2 trillion agreement. Write “2 Trillion dollar huge success” on a paper and let him show it to the cameras.
>This is a delusional level of imports that the EU has virtually no chance of meeting, **and one that U.S. producers would also struggle to supply**. Even if the EU did manage somehow to boost its energy imports from the United States to the $250 billion a year mark, it would also prove massively disruptive for energy flows around the rest of world.
The supply doesn’t matter. They can buy Russian oil and sell it on to the Europeans
Everytime Europe got a chance to stand up against america they fold, what’s even the point of UE anymore
Im hoping this whole deal vetoed
What a joke giving in to the convicted criminal
The question whether it is our delusion or if it is Tramps?
If Tramp can lie and bluster and throw any agreement out of the window several months from now. Then why shouldn’t we lie and bluster back? Let him move his attention on to the next thing he wants to break. He doesn’t know when you’re betraying him if you superficially flatter to him.
If the US wants to live in delusion let us encourage it. I am personally pledging ten times what the EU offered yesterday. It’s the greatest deal. And none of this imaginary shit would have been possible without Tramp. One thousand years of prosperity.
This is an “only for appearances” deal .
Trump even have it’s “only for appearances” exit door with suprême court ruling them illégal whenever he wants to
It’s a “we may buy shit for X”.
Spoiler : we won’t.
BUT orange pedo doesn’t know, doesn’t care, he got his win while his fan base rages for him thinking of pardoning a human trafficker and Pedo friend.
Could we got a better deal? Yes, is this deal shit? Nope.
Also, thank god we didn’t tariff their shitty product, tariffs are a tax on consumers, so let the USA tax his people and if you wanna boycott their products in the EU.
Lots of copium being inhaled by EU supporters today.
This promise is just a way to placate Trump no doubt because the Commission has no power over energy purchases. But in 2025 EU US LNG imports will be up because we are replacing Russian gas so they will be able to sell that increase as going towards the promise. Never mind that the 250 billion number is completely stupid.
A shame that our leaders are kowtowing to Trump with this deal. Reliance on this US for energy is nearly as bad as a continued reliance on Putin. Might very well come to bite us in the ass in the same way.
Haha, well played Europe.
Trump is probably happy with the floated numbers, but this actually doesn’t mean much. Nothing concrete.
And there already is increased demand ‘away from Russia’ so it’s not like Europe was not going in that direction anyway.
Man we dodged a bullet 😂 good luck to the rest of ya’all !
So the EU basically “solved” that issue by trying to wait it out, getting actual reductions in some areas like automobiles and all for the price of two completely unenforceable purchase commitments one of which is completely impossible to hit too.
Truly master negotiator Trump strikes again. Yeah it’s a shitty situation, but I think the EU still made the most of it. I don’t think we could realistically expect the EU to escalate it to 420.69% tariff rate like China did.
And Trump’s attention will be somewhere else next week anyway. Doubt anything will happen if the EU doesn’t hit those targets.
Hear me out: And what if EU gave this ‘deal’ to Donny knowing full well it is delusional and won’t actually be a real thing – just to appeal to the ego of the US dictator?
Short term gain, epstein’s files should be helpful.
Long term risk
So what? Who cares? When someone makes delusional requests you make delusional promises.
This one baffles me, the EU has a goal of reducing carbon a lot by (i forget the exact number) by 2030. To enact this we’re enacting strict import programmes such as CBAM that puts a cost on imports in through emissions.
How will these energy imports be affected by that? Will they not be required to pay import emissions costs?
I think EU has caught on how to deal with Trump.. promise random bullshit for the photo op so he can feel like a winner. It does not matter by tomorrow anyway