La Francia e la Germania guidano la risposta dell’UE al contratto commerciale statunitense
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ez97zv5y5o
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La Francia e la Germania guidano la risposta dell’UE al contratto commerciale statunitense
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ez97zv5y5o
di GeneReddit123
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The uncomfortable reality is that until the EU is capable of defending itself without US support, the US will treat it as a vassal.
The EU needs to take a *very* hard look at itself, its union, and what it wants (and is capable of) being. A fairweather alliance does not work once the fair weather is over.
So France is the only country to come against the deal so far…
This is sad and disappointing. It seems all the other members are very happy to continue as it is, they have learned nothing.
The US will keep on pushing since it’s working.
You guys need to move on, this isn’t that deep
you’d think the 2 biggest economies in EU would have some input or knowledge of this deal…
So what is going on? Leyen deliberately signed a shitty deal knowing it wont pass any inspection? What is the endgame here?
Europe used to be a colonizing force, now we’re reduced to vassals.
A colony of a former colony of one of its nations.
Such a shame.
Edit: Behold all the proud and righteous people here below, on an lowly European forum, totally not triggered and not a bit insecure over things they did not experience, and from europeans dead and buried centuries ago. Really sums up american culture, add it right besides every other hereditary victimhood syndrome as an excuse to spread mindless hate and claim reparations over imaginary suffering. Hammered right in the sensitive parts, apparently.
[Screenshot of viewership statistics.](https://imgur.com/a/eaiykGa) I love statistics, and I fancy seeing the sheer interest people who claim not to care or feel superior have over what they claim to be above of. Confident people act confident.
“The alternative would have been a trade war”
OK. Then that would have been better than EU hissing the white flag and being the sole loser of a war. Because the current deal says “USA won”.
A trade war would have been bad for BOTH sides. But it would have lead to compromise at some point that both sides would have received good and bad parts.
Thanks to EU folding immediately, we’re getting all the downsides now. And the fact that Merz keeps emphasizing the benefits for the car industry tells me that this whole shitshow was done ONLY for the car industry. And outdated industry that shouldn’t be catered to in 2025.
In my opinion, this is simply kicking the can down the road. At some point, the EU will have to confront Trump and dare him to initiate his threatened trade war. It’s obvious that the agreement reached favours the Americans and, as such, is further proof that the current US administration is not to be trusted. Caving in only encourages him.
In addition to the 15% tariffs, this EU “deal” with [TACO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out#Tariffs) will cement the US technological monopolies and on average it will cost **3000 euro to each EU citizen** (750 billion of energy + 600 billions of weapons = 1350 billions of “investments” / 450 million Europeans = 3000).
>The deal will require the approval of all 27 members of the EU, each of which has differing interests and levels of reliance on the export of goods to the US.
Don’t [trade deals with third parties](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX%3A12008E207%3Aen%3AHTML) only require a [qualified majority](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/voting-system/qualified-majority/)?
It is a disaster for EU. All multinational companies would move their headquarters and manufacture centres to the US or China. Why? Trumps mood can change anytime, and tariff can go up at his whims. On the other hand, companies based in the US have a guaranteed zero tariff for EU markets. Companies may move to china, enjoying massive supply chains, cheap labor, and proximity to huge local markets.
Also, it is stupid to permanently abandon Russian energy. US energy is much more expensive, and EU looses it’s leverage to Russia as well.
It is not a surprise for me. EU has always been weak, divided, and spineless.
Could this be the makings of an EU equivalent of the Boston tea party?
Isn’t there a case that would remove all the tariffs going thorugh the courts right now? I think tariff is going to be removed regardless in like a year.
Trump doesnt have the power to impose trade tariffs like this….
“You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.”
Why is Europe so unwilling to fight a war anymore? Economic or Military. I understand that wars are bad, but you have to still be willing to fight them, else you’ll just get bullied non-stop by those who are.
We just gave Trump a big W. We just improved the Republicans chance to win in 2028, and if it’s Vance, then we’re done. He hates the EU more than Trump.
On the bright side, Europe as a colony is getting a much better treatment than Congo did.
China; rather be a broken gem than a full peace of rock.
EU; Daddy Trump gets what he wants.
Germany ain’t gonna do shit because they got a good deal for their cars, trump is going to come back in 2 months to ask for more and UE will bend over once again
We mocked the UK-US deal, but in the end they got a better deal.
Merde. So basically allowing Trump to say whatever. EU, this deal is oxymoron.
Between 2000 and 2020, the EU achieved several major milestones:
1. **Enlargement**: Added 13 new member states, mostly from Central and Eastern Europe (2004, 2007, 2013).
2. **Euro Expansion**: Grew the eurozone to include 19 countries by 2015.
3. **Lisbon Treaty (2009)**: Reformed EU institutions, strengthened foreign policy, and expanded Parliament powers.
4. **Financial Crisis Response**: Created the European Stability Mechanism (2012), banking union steps, and stricter fiscal rules.
5. **Climate Action**: Set 2020 climate targets (20% emissions cut, 20% renewables, 20% energy efficiency).
6. **Digital and Data Protection**: Passed GDPR (2018), setting global standards for data privacy.
7. **Freedom of Movement**: Strengthened Schengen Area and labor mobility, despite some crises (e.g., 2015 migration).
8. **Social Rights**: Adopted the European Pillar of Social Rights (2017) to guide fairer labor markets.
9. **Research and Innovation**: Funded major R&D via Horizon 2020 (€80B budget).
10. **Brexit Management**: Negotiated the UK’s departure deal (2016–2020), maintaining internal unity.
We also gave hundreds of thousands of non-EU citizens money, a place to live, money for food, training all that stuff.
I’m starting to wonder if maybe we should have been focusing on securing our manufacturing industries, precious metals, resources and military, building robust defence industry and infrastructure.
But I guess another initiative to get girls playing football, making sure our pets have a net zero carbon footprint, and making sure trans people can piss in their preferred bathrooms are just as important.
Russian tanks stand no chance against the power of love <3