Accordo commerciale Eu-USA ha spiegato
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_1930
di TheCoolDude70
Accordo commerciale Eu-USA ha spiegato
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_1930
di TheCoolDude70
35 commenti
>The EU also intends to purchase €40 billion worth of AI chips essential to maintaining the EU’s technological edge.
Didn’t it say “**US** technological edge” in von der Leyen’s initial statement? Typo or damage control?
>**Liberalising certain trade that is of mutual interest from the US into the EU.**
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>The EU and US will enhance supply chain resilience and address non-market policies and practices.
Less protection against US’ more predatory market practices, and dismantling of public utilities and services (*cough* healthcare *cough*).
>**Reducing non-tariff barriers**, including via cooperation on car/automotive standards and SPS (sanitary and phytosanitary) measures, and by facilitating mutual recognition of conformity assessments in additional industrial sectors.
Chlorinated chicken when?
>At the same time, it fully **respects the EU’s regulatory sovereignty and protects sensitive areas of EU agriculture**, such as beef or poultry.
Oh? Well, good then, but…
>The political agreement of 27 July 2025 is not **legally binding**. Beyond taking the immediate actions committed, the EU and the US will **further negotiate**, in line with their relevant internal procedures, to fully implement the political agreement.
… this absolutely positively reeks of damage control kilometers away. So I don’t know how to take that press release. It still immensely looks like vassalisation to me.
This TOTALLY is not a surrender and full acknowledgement of EU as US vassal state.
Basically, political suicide happened for von der leyen and anyone associated with her.
It is crazy that the initial expectations of the deal being bad for the EU only gets worse with each tidbit of information released. Now we have truly reached the point of “sanitary and phytosanitary” standards being lowered for US foods in our market.
The current EU needs to go. It cant protect us in this world of sharks. It is a fat Tuna willingly letting itself be eaten. The historic chance to keep “lets go EU” spirit Trumps antics have sparked and develop it into something tangible and they fumble the ball so hard that it is almost comical.
To everyone saying that the EU was giving $600 billion to the US, all von der Leyen did was “take credit” for what the private sector had already announced. Trump gets a big number, and the EU gives nothing.
>**Promoting and facilitating mutual investments on both sides of the Atlantic.** EU companies have expressed interest in investing at least $600 billion (ca. €550 billion) in various sectors in the US by 2029, further boosting the already significant €2.4 trillion in existing investment.
Don’t let Trump and Putin divide us…. we have to do everything now to become independent from USA and Russia…. and the rest of the world. We have to work for a future, were Europe is stronger and can do everything alone, without the trade/help from the rest of the world.
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Wtf we don’t want there crap food… EU standup for yourself don’t bend the knee!!
On a side note, EU has no power to force private sector to make investment and, at the same time, no means of doing it by itself.
Same for the buying it energies number – US exports 25 bill dollars worth of oil and gas per year, so EU saying it will start buying 10 times more of than the current export capacity is simply nonsense.
These numbers have absolutely no meaning. They are just there to let Trump announce a big win.
How did Ursula von der Leyen give up such a position of strength? If just a handful of months ago you had shown me the EU and UK deals and told me which one was which, I’d have called you insane.
Just make sure that display it with big letters that the meat and fish is raised/slaughtered using US standards, that will hopefully keep people away
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The 15% ceiling applies to nearly all EU exports currently subject to *reciprocal* tariffs (except where the US MFN tariff exceeds 15%, in which case only the MFN tariff applies with no additional tariffs on top).
Jesus, there’s so little self-respect they don’t even put “reciprocal” in quotes here… I had been trying to be supportive, but VdL acts like a wet blanket in this whole thing.
Folding to the weakest bluff in history.
I’m tired of French wine producers and luxury goods manufacturers as well as the German automakers, machine and medicine manufacturers. We didn’t make the EU just for them.
Here’s the explanation: the deal is worthless. It cannot be enforced on EU countries by those that signed it. Also it is effectively impossible to fulfil in parts even if all parties would agree to go along with it. The deal will fail, Trump will cry about it and slap a 50% tariff on EU but then suspends it for 90 days and around and around we go until mango mussolini kicks the bucket.
We really getting their trash food standards ?
EUR/USD rate is so strong now that it’s actually more like a 25% extra cost on european products
I can’t believe Britain got a better deal on their own
If it goes through that spells the end of the union
What a fucking humiliation.
Not legally binding. The only immediate action is the US side raising tariffs to 15%. Short-term win for the car industry since they get a 10% tariff cut.
Good chance this deal never becomes law. I’d still have preferred counter-tariffs over this delaying tactic. This is not a long-term (>1-2 years) solution.
Seems like they can’t agree on what was actually included in the deal: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/07/29/eu-and-us-spin-conflicting-versions-of-trade-deal
Gives me hope that it will all fall through.
So tired of anti-EU dick riding. Even people quoting from the statement provide no explanation as to why a certain element of the deal is bad, it just reads “check this out, cringe amirite?”
This is an ongoing negotiation and this “”deal”” got forced through to buy more time. Trump wants a win to wave around, the EU wants some degree of certainty for their industry exporters/importers. Having this is, believe it or not, better than having a fucking White House lunatic changing his mind on the daily about what kind of tariffs to place on all of Europe.
It is damage control in a time and place where the US is entirely erratic and Europe is NOT able to fend for itself. And like it or not, you cannot turn an entire continent’s policy and readiness around in 6 months after spending multiple decades on structures and assumptions about having a crazy but reliable ally in the US. The entire current premise is also dominated by the situation with Russia and the threat of armed conflict spreading.
Every single person who’ve never experienced war – trade or otherwise – calling for it or welcoming actions that bring us closer to it, just out of spite or principle, can fuck right off. Travel to the Ukrainian frontline and do some good.
Literally every single provision in this deal consists of the EU conceding something to the US. And the most comical part is them framing it to be positive and for mutual benefit. You cannot make this stuff up:
> Promoting and facilitating mutual investments on both sides of the Atlantic. EU companies have expressed interest in investing at least $600 billion (ca. €550 billion) in various sectors in the US by 2029, further boosting the already significant €2.4 trillion in existing investment.
Mutual investments made entirely by the EU – what an oxymoron.
I am still missing an explanation of why the entire EU completely folded on this. Surely it cannot just be that weak-willed negotiators fell for the oldest trick in the book: Anchoring by starting out with outrageous threats. This isn’t some random buying a used car.
What is the huge leverage that the US has on EU? Are we really that dependent on them for security? In that case I’ll thank Trump from the bottom of my heart for showing it to us, so we can do something about it.
The deal is bad. Everything that isn’t binding just gives Trump more leverage to complain about Europeans screwing him over, not holding up our side of the bargin and his imbalance nonsense. It’s all just to make us weaker.
Between this and the bullshit of the Digital Service act and Chat Control the EU is on big L streak if you ask me. This press release seems like damage control first and statement second. We’ll see what happens, but with Germany and France already so vocal about this I don’t think this will go through in this state
Well on the bright side, before the EU starts doing something about the trade deal (as per usual business in the long bureaucratic corridors of EU) every one in the US will be tired of waiting and will start this game again, maybe then the commission don’t fold so easily.
They are trying to explain gunboat diplomacy, unequal treaties and economic and political colonialism to Europeans? Seriously?
Disgusting. Trump handed you literal shit on a platter and you go “mm, this is good mr president, very tasty”
Everyone in europe got fucked except for Germany that went from 27.5% taxes on car to 15%
Man i wonder where von der leyen come from 🤔
The EU is so weak, it’s sad to see. We got bullied and didn’t even try to fight back
From countries outside the U.S. and Europe. I don’t really understand these treaties. Compared to tariffs, I think the more important aspects are the 600 billion in investments and 750 billion in energy purchases. Massive funds flowing into the U.S. will increase employment and boost industry and high-tech development. But with all the money going to the U.S., where will the funds for Europe’s future development come from? This is a robbery of Europe’s future.
“The political agreement of 27 July 2025 is not legally binding.” Of course it’s not. It’s not even practical. No one can force EU companies to buy $250 billion worth of fuel from the USA. That would mean they would break contracts with existing suppliers. And the US producers couldn’t supply that amount without breaking contracts with their own customers.
Everyone has learnt how to deal with Trump: pat him on the head, tell him he’s a tough negotiator and promise him an icecream cream. He gives an interview to the press and then immediately forgets what he has just said. He also forgets about the icecream. When it doesn’t arrive no one will have the guts to tell him. In the meantime everyone is negotiating trade agreements with each other to exclude the USA…
Every single country that the convicted felon and sex offender thinks that he has a trade agreement with has done the same thing: pretend there is an agreement and let him think that he’s won. There is never anything signed: China, Japan, the UK and now the EU. In the meantime they negotiate real trade agreements with others.
I never thought that that tactic would still work because it’s so obvious. But when I see the comments here I realise that half the people are more stupid that the median …
Rhetorically, Europe looks weak but holy shit what is this doomerism and self-loathing I am seeing. No one signed shit, this framework isn’t legally binding.Trump, for some reason, can singlehandedly impose tariffs and we got 15% instead of 30%, however Ursula can’t unilaterally accept a deal. Further negotiations and voting will take place and we’re looking at ratifying the deal a year from now at the earliest.
Is it really as bad as everyone thinks?
Trump is a lot of large words and numbers, and if we need to frame a win as a big loss, i think this is a smart move on behalf of Europa.
Tariffs of 15 % is bad, but all the other points is basically just words, nothing new. At this time with war in Europe, we need the US and are in a bad position to negotiate.
We need to remember that US is not the great partner as they once was, but until we can stand on our own do we need the US.
In short, EU got fuked like a little bureaucratic bitch by Trump.