*The PM’s advisers believe an ID system could reduce friction between the public and the state*
Yeah, that’s not gonna happen.
FoxtrotThem on
We let them take an inch, now they are going to take a mile.
Porticulus on
Didn’t take long to start slipping down that slope.
Georgist-Minarchist on
they can shove that, but sheepy supporters of his will lap it up and do what they are told
StresWeeting on
Of course I assume this means handing more fistfuls of cash to companies that have next to no impact on the economy. Surely if we keep handing money to tech and finance eventually it will trickle down to your average brit, it hasnt worked for 20 years but surely this time it will
Minimum-Geologist-58 on
I really have never understood the opposition in this country to you know, basic acts of state organisation that so many other countries manage without turning into a dystopian hell?
You can see how utterly cretinous objections are by the existence of photo card driving licenses and passports. The government already has this data about most people, who are the off-gridders concerned by this?
SecureVillage on
As an example, when you have to start using you government ID to access websites, and insurers and mortgage providers can access your browsing history.
TuringComplete213 on
They can piss off, i ain’t going down this slippery slope.
dan0o9 on
I agree with a proper ID system but I bet it gets given to one of the usual government contractors who will massively overcharge and make a crap job of implementing it.
Nice-Roof6364 on
We probably should have had this a decade ago, it would fix all sorts of abuses and fraud.
Can’t say I’m too optimistic about any British government getting it done without costing a fortune or it working as intended though.
macrolidesrule on
>A new internal paper by the Tony Blair Institute
It figures that that twat is involved in some way.
evanwpm on
My hot take, i think it makes a lot of sense and i don’t really mind.
In principal i think you can have a well organised strong state or a poorly organised loose state. At the moment we are trying for a poorly organised strong state.
LonelyStranger8467 on
How else will they hold you to account for your anonymous online posts via VPN about topics critical of government policy if you’re not using your name and your approved social media account linked to your digital ID.
qwerty_1965 on
Starmer is a technocrat at heart. Which means he has not a scintilla political insight.
Literally everything coming out of Downing Street is now based on numbers not feelings.
Cyrillite on
This is a good thing, genuinely. This is also the correct way to establish online content restrictions in an anonymous way.
I have a driver’s license looked after by one body, a passport by another, taxes by a third, health by a fourth, voting by a fifth… and they all need permission to talk to each other. This is silly. It can be centralised and streamlined.
At the same time, a default national ID, like one’s National Insurance Number but better, can be used to generate a one time “this user is over-18” proof token that isn’t tied to any of my real IDs. This is a firewall between having your face scanned or passport scanned to see content.
There’s no reason not to have a proper, modern, centralised, digital ID system.
Loreki on
Between ID cards , OSA and the limits placed on the rights of trans people, the Starmer Government is shaping up to be the most socially conservative in YEARS.
Even the Conservative governments before it, which you would expect to be pretty strict, did things like legalise gay marriage (extending it from civil partnerships) and reform abortion in Northern Ireland.
That’s on top of the horrifically unpopular tax and spending choices they’ve been making. It’s almost like he’s got a job offer for the second half of 2029 and the last thing he wants is a second term.
Minorshell61 on
They’ve gone nuts with authoritarianism lately wtf.
Remarkable_Misty on
Labour are becoming the nazis with all this control
asfish123 on
So, a digital ID to control people who arrive on boats with zero ID is effective, how? Oh, wait think of the children
Sir_Henry_Deadman on
Well now you can’t be claiming benefits if you’re not a citizen or vote if you’re not a citizen or all those other things people are so very worried about…
Congratulations
TuffGnarl on
Could you just issue an official approved Wank Card please and have done with it 👍
InvertedDinoSpore on
Every time I see a savage put down of this increasingly incompetent and authoritarian government on reddit, in the back of my mind I sense clampdowns like this being their next agenda.
jeremybeadleshand on
I wonder if Keir Starmer has ever had a single independent thought
En-TitY_ on
Get these fucking cunts out of Parliament, I swear.
goji__berry on
Christ, it’s been a nice year I’ve spent back here in the UK, but it has also really solidified why I left in the first place. I wish you all the best and hopefully some sanity can return to this island.
TwistedPepperCan on
How the fuck are they worse than the tories. How is that even possible?
Euphoric_Grade_3594 on
The digital ID isn’t to track the intimate details of your life. It’s to have a single profile for interacting with all government services. For example you break your leg and can’t work, within your profile are all the messages from the NHS and DWP if you had to get support. Or DVLA if you also take your car off the road. Some EU countries are miles ahead of this country digitally.
FizzbuzzAvabanana on
With each day that passes the U18’s they’re going to give the vote to are going to be the group that brings them down.
The exact opposite of what they planned.
ace250674 on
This was always the plan, get ready for 15 minute cities, social credit scores tied to your cbdc wallet, you’ll own nothing and be happy
GreatBritishHedgehog on
This is what they do.
Rather than fix the underlying issues that people are getting frustrated about, Labour just seem intent on silencing any criticism through whatever means possible
Feels like the U.K. is heading into a really dark place
SHITBLAST3000 on
Absolutely fucking not, get fucked Labour. Don’t act shocked if Farage gets in.
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*The PM’s advisers believe an ID system could reduce friction between the public and the state*
Yeah, that’s not gonna happen.
We let them take an inch, now they are going to take a mile.
Didn’t take long to start slipping down that slope.
they can shove that, but sheepy supporters of his will lap it up and do what they are told
Of course I assume this means handing more fistfuls of cash to companies that have next to no impact on the economy. Surely if we keep handing money to tech and finance eventually it will trickle down to your average brit, it hasnt worked for 20 years but surely this time it will
I really have never understood the opposition in this country to you know, basic acts of state organisation that so many other countries manage without turning into a dystopian hell?
You can see how utterly cretinous objections are by the existence of photo card driving licenses and passports. The government already has this data about most people, who are the off-gridders concerned by this?
As an example, when you have to start using you government ID to access websites, and insurers and mortgage providers can access your browsing history.
They can piss off, i ain’t going down this slippery slope.
I agree with a proper ID system but I bet it gets given to one of the usual government contractors who will massively overcharge and make a crap job of implementing it.
We probably should have had this a decade ago, it would fix all sorts of abuses and fraud.
Can’t say I’m too optimistic about any British government getting it done without costing a fortune or it working as intended though.
>A new internal paper by the Tony Blair Institute
It figures that that twat is involved in some way.
My hot take, i think it makes a lot of sense and i don’t really mind.
In principal i think you can have a well organised strong state or a poorly organised loose state. At the moment we are trying for a poorly organised strong state.
How else will they hold you to account for your anonymous online posts via VPN about topics critical of government policy if you’re not using your name and your approved social media account linked to your digital ID.
Starmer is a technocrat at heart. Which means he has not a scintilla political insight.
Literally everything coming out of Downing Street is now based on numbers not feelings.
This is a good thing, genuinely. This is also the correct way to establish online content restrictions in an anonymous way.
I have a driver’s license looked after by one body, a passport by another, taxes by a third, health by a fourth, voting by a fifth… and they all need permission to talk to each other. This is silly. It can be centralised and streamlined.
At the same time, a default national ID, like one’s National Insurance Number but better, can be used to generate a one time “this user is over-18” proof token that isn’t tied to any of my real IDs. This is a firewall between having your face scanned or passport scanned to see content.
There’s no reason not to have a proper, modern, centralised, digital ID system.
Between ID cards , OSA and the limits placed on the rights of trans people, the Starmer Government is shaping up to be the most socially conservative in YEARS.
Even the Conservative governments before it, which you would expect to be pretty strict, did things like legalise gay marriage (extending it from civil partnerships) and reform abortion in Northern Ireland.
That’s on top of the horrifically unpopular tax and spending choices they’ve been making. It’s almost like he’s got a job offer for the second half of 2029 and the last thing he wants is a second term.
They’ve gone nuts with authoritarianism lately wtf.
Labour are becoming the nazis with all this control
So, a digital ID to control people who arrive on boats with zero ID is effective, how? Oh, wait think of the children
Well now you can’t be claiming benefits if you’re not a citizen or vote if you’re not a citizen or all those other things people are so very worried about…
Congratulations
Could you just issue an official approved Wank Card please and have done with it 👍
Every time I see a savage put down of this increasingly incompetent and authoritarian government on reddit, in the back of my mind I sense clampdowns like this being their next agenda.
I wonder if Keir Starmer has ever had a single independent thought
Get these fucking cunts out of Parliament, I swear.
Christ, it’s been a nice year I’ve spent back here in the UK, but it has also really solidified why I left in the first place. I wish you all the best and hopefully some sanity can return to this island.
How the fuck are they worse than the tories. How is that even possible?
The digital ID isn’t to track the intimate details of your life. It’s to have a single profile for interacting with all government services. For example you break your leg and can’t work, within your profile are all the messages from the NHS and DWP if you had to get support. Or DVLA if you also take your car off the road. Some EU countries are miles ahead of this country digitally.
With each day that passes the U18’s they’re going to give the vote to are going to be the group that brings them down.
The exact opposite of what they planned.
This was always the plan, get ready for 15 minute cities, social credit scores tied to your cbdc wallet, you’ll own nothing and be happy
This is what they do.
Rather than fix the underlying issues that people are getting frustrated about, Labour just seem intent on silencing any criticism through whatever means possible
Feels like the U.K. is heading into a really dark place
Absolutely fucking not, get fucked Labour. Don’t act shocked if Farage gets in.