I was reading an article this morning and honestly it defies belief. Even in 2022 the UK & US were still buying russian oil. Thus, effectively, funding the russian war machine.
What I didn’t expect though is that EU countries are still buying russian oil in 2024 and today
Surely this has to stop?
SpiritedEclair on
Very funny for India to point fingers at us.
Utstein on
Well done the EU though.
Emotinonal_jiggolo on
Money trumps Politics. People always seem to forget this
aespaste on
Yeah but it’s not gonna happen
other-work-account on
So, let me understand this… War starts and Germany and EU get off Russian energy. In the meantime, Mercedes, Daimler and other German industry giants are moving their things to India WHILE India is using Russian energy…
In the meantime, Germany just lets that happen, while same industries have 10s of thousand layoffs in Germany.
What is EU/Germany’s gameplan here?
joost00719 on
We just buy Indian oil, which was Russian oil.
Pongi on
Why is the UK grouped with the U.S. here? Brexit made infographics and tour announcements so weird. Things like “Europe + UK tour”
Thin2333 on
Nobody gives a damn about ukraine outside eu
oceangreen25 on
Time to give Ukraine longer range weapons so they can start fucking up more Russian oil infrastructure
UnknownMight on
By this logic the whole world should place a trade embargo with Russia, something you don’t want to decide overnight
Alex-3 on
Russia will sell it to other countries. While EU will buy it from US and other countries. Not sure it will change anything for Russia
afops on
The question is: who is buying the indian and Turkish oil (or I’m guessing, petroleum products)? First of all we need to look at the west: is anyone buying anything _made_ from oil, from Turkey or India? Then we should stop doing that.
The EU/UK no longer buying Russian oil and petroleum products _directly_ from Russia has no real effect if we are buying more products from Turkey and India that consist of Russian oil. Basically: any country that has a not-insignificant level of Russian oil in their inflow, should be completely barred to import from, to western countries.
majestic7 on
Whose oil is India now no longer buying?
lawrotzr on
You will be amazed to learn who is buying all that Russian energy from the Indians and others.
The EU is the hypocrite here, as it has failed to build anything of any significance economically in the past 30 years, apart from being incredibly busy giving speeches about universal values and telling the rest of the world how they should do it.
Ursula out, forced implementation of the Draghi report ASAP.
drswizzel on
I mean eu almost stopped us stopped etc. idk why this get posted here.
Eu will stop all import when contract run out or there found other place to buy
Bobbyee on
Well, at least they sell it at a very low price, making their profits lower compared to what they received from Europe.
ExpertPath on
What’s interesting is that Russia is selling almost the same amount as it did in 2021.
Sactions.don’t.work
Mikkel65 on
What! Russian exports didn’t even drop? They just moved!?
bingbang1223 on
You don’t want them to stop. Oil price will shoot too $100 a barrel the next day. You just got out of covid inflation, you are not ready for the consequences.
Shaqtacious on
Why? Why should countries pay more for their resources?
Kraz_The_Spazz on
Were still buying Russian oil, Theres just middle(countries)men buying it from Russia first, then we buy it from them.
If we completely cut off Russia from everything and dont buy anything, theyll surely lose the war, but also their country, it would grow uncontrollable from famine, inflation and civil war, if they dont just push the button for putting them on that path already, then were all gone.
As much hate and anger we can have for Russia, i dont think we cant just get rid of them, they’re too big to replace, and too dangerous to crush. We can hurt them and make things very difficult, were going to need their resources in the future, this generally just applies if you care about future people and want children.
I still think we can squeeze MUCH harder, and we are pussyfooting around.
ssushi-speakers on
Isn’t India processing the oil and selling the results to the EU?
Lovevas on
So this chart is telling us that who is still funding Russia to invade Ukraine, which causes the Europw billions to help defund.
Oh, that includes Europe itself???
WinDrossel007 on
Who buys Indian and Chinese oil?
Who buys oil from Azerbaijan?
Turkey imports Russian crude/refined fuel → reprocesses → EU
India refines Russian crude → sells refined fuels via traders → UK & EU markets
China -> similar model: Russian crude → domestic refining → exports into global markets that supply EU
How are you going to stop that?
PhoenixHntr on
India is just a proxy for Europe consumption. Europe went up the tree and now have a difficulty getting down.
WorldOfTech on
Why? They are free to buy oil from whoever they want, the cheaper, the better (unlike our Geniuses here in the EU who have messed the economies of all countries just so they can virtue signal).
Significant_Cover_48 on
Of course they are buying Russian oil. We always knew they would be.
GiLA994 on
Developing countries don’t give a shit about anything except the best way for them to develop. And it clearly is to buy russian oil.
If they didn’t do so, they would probably burn more coal which would funnily be even worse from a planetary point of view
Haunting_Switch3463 on
They have their economic and geopolitical interests and we have ours. They care about war in Europe just as much as we care about wars happening in Asia and Africa. We have two friendly countries, to us, currently commiting genocide, but are willing to look the other way because the benefits outweight the moral issues.
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I was reading an article this morning and honestly it defies belief. Even in 2022 the UK & US were still buying russian oil. Thus, effectively, funding the russian war machine.
What I didn’t expect though is that EU countries are still buying russian oil in 2024 and today
Surely this has to stop?
Very funny for India to point fingers at us.
Well done the EU though.
Money trumps Politics. People always seem to forget this
Yeah but it’s not gonna happen
So, let me understand this… War starts and Germany and EU get off Russian energy. In the meantime, Mercedes, Daimler and other German industry giants are moving their things to India WHILE India is using Russian energy…
In the meantime, Germany just lets that happen, while same industries have 10s of thousand layoffs in Germany.
What is EU/Germany’s gameplan here?
We just buy Indian oil, which was Russian oil.
Why is the UK grouped with the U.S. here? Brexit made infographics and tour announcements so weird. Things like “Europe + UK tour”
Nobody gives a damn about ukraine outside eu
Time to give Ukraine longer range weapons so they can start fucking up more Russian oil infrastructure
By this logic the whole world should place a trade embargo with Russia, something you don’t want to decide overnight
Russia will sell it to other countries. While EU will buy it from US and other countries. Not sure it will change anything for Russia
The question is: who is buying the indian and Turkish oil (or I’m guessing, petroleum products)? First of all we need to look at the west: is anyone buying anything _made_ from oil, from Turkey or India? Then we should stop doing that.
The EU/UK no longer buying Russian oil and petroleum products _directly_ from Russia has no real effect if we are buying more products from Turkey and India that consist of Russian oil. Basically: any country that has a not-insignificant level of Russian oil in their inflow, should be completely barred to import from, to western countries.
Whose oil is India now no longer buying?
You will be amazed to learn who is buying all that Russian energy from the Indians and others.
The EU is the hypocrite here, as it has failed to build anything of any significance economically in the past 30 years, apart from being incredibly busy giving speeches about universal values and telling the rest of the world how they should do it.
Ursula out, forced implementation of the Draghi report ASAP.
I mean eu almost stopped us stopped etc. idk why this get posted here.
Eu will stop all import when contract run out or there found other place to buy
Well, at least they sell it at a very low price, making their profits lower compared to what they received from Europe.
What’s interesting is that Russia is selling almost the same amount as it did in 2021.
Sactions.don’t.work
What! Russian exports didn’t even drop? They just moved!?
You don’t want them to stop. Oil price will shoot too $100 a barrel the next day. You just got out of covid inflation, you are not ready for the consequences.
Why? Why should countries pay more for their resources?
Were still buying Russian oil, Theres just middle(countries)men buying it from Russia first, then we buy it from them.
If we completely cut off Russia from everything and dont buy anything, theyll surely lose the war, but also their country, it would grow uncontrollable from famine, inflation and civil war, if they dont just push the button for putting them on that path already, then were all gone.
As much hate and anger we can have for Russia, i dont think we cant just get rid of them, they’re too big to replace, and too dangerous to crush. We can hurt them and make things very difficult, were going to need their resources in the future, this generally just applies if you care about future people and want children.
I still think we can squeeze MUCH harder, and we are pussyfooting around.
Isn’t India processing the oil and selling the results to the EU?
So this chart is telling us that who is still funding Russia to invade Ukraine, which causes the Europw billions to help defund.
Oh, that includes Europe itself???
Who buys Indian and Chinese oil?
Who buys oil from Azerbaijan?
Turkey imports Russian crude/refined fuel → reprocesses → EU
India refines Russian crude → sells refined fuels via traders → UK & EU markets
China -> similar model: Russian crude → domestic refining → exports into global markets that supply EU
How are you going to stop that?
India is just a proxy for Europe consumption. Europe went up the tree and now have a difficulty getting down.
Why? They are free to buy oil from whoever they want, the cheaper, the better (unlike our Geniuses here in the EU who have messed the economies of all countries just so they can virtue signal).
Of course they are buying Russian oil. We always knew they would be.
Developing countries don’t give a shit about anything except the best way for them to develop. And it clearly is to buy russian oil.
If they didn’t do so, they would probably burn more coal which would funnily be even worse from a planetary point of view
They have their economic and geopolitical interests and we have ours. They care about war in Europe just as much as we care about wars happening in Asia and Africa. We have two friendly countries, to us, currently commiting genocide, but are willing to look the other way because the benefits outweight the moral issues.