RAGNI Come ci sentiamo riguardo a questo controllo della chat dell’UE che il governo sostiene? Sembra molto distopico secondo me. Possiamo fare qualcosa per fermarlo?

A minority of loud people making a mountain out of a molehill.

Concerned. A step towards authoritarianism. Similar to that hate speech bill

Literally no one in the real world has brought this in conversation.

Overreach or authoritarian aside, I’d say most people don’t give a shit.

Surely it would be better to teach children very seriously in school about love-bombing and gaslighting and online risks, so they’re not at risk from predators (whether online or offline).

Unnessry and Concerning. The gaurds have shown before they can’t be trusted with sensitive materials, and I don’t think giving them so much power will make that any better. Authoritarianism is creeping into Europe.

Email all our mep’s let them know we don’t want to live in a dystopia. My understanding is too that this bill goes against some constitutional protections in eu countries like Spain. So hopefully it will be amended or blocked.

Back to letters I guess.

Things like this only drive technology on. Someone will come out with a different encryption and way to bypass the whole thing.

Not too bothered about it really. Depends on the implementation. If we were in a place like the USA, I’d be worried, but the structure and foundation of the EU, as well as Ireland’s own constitution and laws, make it much less of an issue for me. Our courts have no issue throwing out laws that go too far.

Now if they were to try and expand it to include copyright or something, I’d have an issue.

There’s no evidence that our government are supporting it.

When it comes down to a vote, it’s unlikely that it’ll go through, but you can email your MEP to make it clear that you don’t support it and shouldn’t support it.

I thought GDPR ensured my right to restrict the processing of my data? Surely this is a breach of GDPR?

Extremely dystopian and won’t achieve it’s stated goal. Which makes me believe this is more about mass surveillance.

They will want to ban VPN’s next.

Not a fan at all. Am going to write to my local TD about it

I’d almost go so far as to say that this sort of thing makes Brexit look like a great idea. It’s properly intrusive and dystopian. It’d be one thing if it was going to lead to better law enforcement but it’s ultimately about building a law that restricts but doesn’t protect. Here in the UK, the Brits are pushing on with facial recognition software and cameras so there’s that as well.

>”Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

>Benjamin Franklin.

I sent an email to them a couple years ago when they first mentioned this and essentially my argument boiled down to this;

The EU is trying to become the world’s largest collector and distributer of child porn in the world. Regardless of my personal privacy, the privacy of my children is being eroded.

The private photos my wife and I hold in shared albums over the last 10 years and three kids will now be looked into and catalogued by the government. That means any photos of my kids in the bath as babies, or swimming on holiday etc etc are now being indexed and are accessible.
The government absolutely cannot guarantee the security of these, and central accessibility to it all means a much much higher risk of bad actors gaining access.

All this means that the EU is now going to be collecting and potentially distributing the largest collection of illicit material in the world.

Along with that, is huge concerns over whether someone is going to be interested in why I have a nude baby pic on my cloud, or if that dark humour joke I made privately to a friend is only a joke or a threat.

I could honestly speak all day about how bad an idea this is, and I’ve already started to mitigate the risks in case this does happen.

It’s Orwellian in an unprecedented way, and it absolutely needs to be stopped.

If it requires us to amend our constitution then it need to be a referendum. These things are always watered down considerably anyways. 

Not happy about it but if there’s one thing I’ve learned about this world is that it doesn’t seem to matter what the general people think or want, only what’s best for out poxy capitalist society. There has to be a better system and solution to all our problems, but that will probably cost money where this will probably make another small amount of people rich. It’s fucking depressing that or world cares more about a bottom line instead of what would actually make our society better.

If anything I’m surprised it hasn’t happened sooner.

People generally don’t care about things like privacy and free speech, and you see it all the time with how hard people advocate for things like hate speech laws and online censorship.

This is just a natural continuation of this line of thinking. I have no doubt whatsoever that measures like this are going to be enacted in basically all western countries over the coming years and decades.

Don’t worry lads the guards don’t have the technology or the manpower to be surveilling everyone’s friend/porn/death video WhatsApp groups

And they wonder why the far right are rising in popularity across Europe, I’m not far right or do I support them but if I have a choice between them or politicians that want erase my right to privacy and freedom of speech and exclude themselves from the same, then I think I’d leaning 1 way more than the other.
This behavior by government’s is what resulted in Trump coming to power.
Stupid decisions equal stupid results.