> In refusing planning permission, ACP has found that the scheme’s excessive height, bulk, massing and form would constitute an overly dominant and isolated tall building that would be at odds with the surrounding context and would seriously injure the amenity of the Liffey Quays and key views along the river corridor.
Jesus christ, Dublin is an ugly city can we not just throw up accomodation and then make certain parts of it actually nice later
Leavser1 on
Common sense suggested it would always be rejected
TheChrisD on
why do we have such a chronic fear of building up in this country…
YoIronFistBro on
Note the word there, REjected. Not OBjected.
NIMBYs are absolutely a problem, but by focusing entirely on them, you’re taking attention and blame away from the ones who _really_ block everything
Conor_Electric on
Please build up, I’ll never get a property at this rate, Dublin is overly flat, can’t keep spreading out to other counties
sureyouknowurself on
> would seriously injure the amenity of the Liffey Quays and key views along the river corridor
Sack every person involved in this rejection.
Guitarman0512 on
How about instead of building these monstrosities, we fix the infrastructure and stimulate companies to move to other cities, so that people don’t necessarily need to live in Dublin?
Large_Initial_6433 on
I think they need to just setup a single Architect for all of Dublin city, allow them to plan it out and let it rip.
We could probably do with a lot of 5/6 story buildings, instead of just a few 15/17+ due to the added congestion such dense developments create and our lack of public transport infrastructure to accommodate
TheGreatPratsby on
Phew! Dublin’s unique skyline is safe for another day.
Reasonable-Food4834 on
Most of us would rather our skyline wasn’t ruined
pauldavis1234 on
Great news.
For existing landlords….
hmmm_ on
Why have we given planners a veto over the development of the city?
Ordinary-Band-2568 on
Its funny, the only thing in Ireland that seems to be enforced to the absolute limit, is planning.
Driving? No.
Crime generally? Not today.
Littering? No thank you.
Want to insulate your house? Better be ready to go to jail. (I know this was resolved ultimately)
Want to store bikes in your front garden? Get wrecked.
Still_Practice_4648 on
The docks could with ambition and vision be Dublins answer to the Manhattan Skyline. Judging by the images above it looks kinda good, yet planning permission for that abomination the Exo beside the Point is in my opinion the ugliest modern building in the city. It’s a glass block. That got permission though.
The docks should be a thriving metropolis, people living, working and entertaining themselves there. Instead after the weekend when offices close it’s deserted. Why not have Casinos and Museums and other attractions down there ?
I know Owen Keegan was ridiculed for his kayaking idea down there but at least it was thinking outside the box and being imaginative. These skills are sadly lacking in this city.
Dublin has the potential to be a world class city but right now it’s so far removed from being one.
BlueBucket0 on
Meanwhile Cork’s has more or less commenced construction on an 85 meter residential tower.
Dublin appears to want to protect the non-skyline at all costs – even if it means a permanent housing crisis and economic decline it seems.
>the commission found that the wholesale demolition of the existing building would be both premature and unjustified and would set an unwelcome precedent for the demolition on similar sites in Dublin
God forbid we should have nice new buildings paid for by private money.
surebegrand2023 on
It’s well known in development circles in Dublin, that RGRE is disproportionately singled out and the governments wiping boy as a result of the property crash.
This being rejected is no surprise. It’s a shame because it’s one of, maybe the last prime dockland sites yet to be developed.
Id expect it to be appealed on the grounds that the building directly across the liffey is taller than what RGRE is proposing.
Proper-Beyond116 on
DCC’s logic is literally:
“We will approve the construction of tall buildings as soon as there are other tall buildings around the area so they don’t stand out”.
Without a hint of irony.
Imagine being this shit at your job.
Additional_Olive3318 on
Sure why would you build stuff at all.
Classic-Champion-124 on
we need maoist punitive treatment for dublin planning czars
Zealousideal-Mud-381 on
Who are these civil servants making these decisions in our name? It’s completely contrary to the will of the people. Who charged them with that responsibility?
Sea_Equivalent3497 on
Honestly, fuck this piddly country. Scared to build tall buildings, scared to build a metro, scared to build any sort of infrastructure. The Council treat Dublin as if it is a village.
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> In refusing planning permission, ACP has found that the scheme’s excessive height, bulk, massing and form would constitute an overly dominant and isolated tall building that would be at odds with the surrounding context and would seriously injure the amenity of the Liffey Quays and key views along the river corridor.
Jesus christ, Dublin is an ugly city can we not just throw up accomodation and then make certain parts of it actually nice later
Common sense suggested it would always be rejected
why do we have such a chronic fear of building up in this country…
Note the word there, REjected. Not OBjected.
NIMBYs are absolutely a problem, but by focusing entirely on them, you’re taking attention and blame away from the ones who _really_ block everything
Please build up, I’ll never get a property at this rate, Dublin is overly flat, can’t keep spreading out to other counties
> would seriously injure the amenity of the Liffey Quays and key views along the river corridor
Sack every person involved in this rejection.
How about instead of building these monstrosities, we fix the infrastructure and stimulate companies to move to other cities, so that people don’t necessarily need to live in Dublin?
I think they need to just setup a single Architect for all of Dublin city, allow them to plan it out and let it rip.
We could probably do with a lot of 5/6 story buildings, instead of just a few 15/17+ due to the added congestion such dense developments create and our lack of public transport infrastructure to accommodate
Phew! Dublin’s unique skyline is safe for another day.
Most of us would rather our skyline wasn’t ruined
Great news.
For existing landlords….
Why have we given planners a veto over the development of the city?
Its funny, the only thing in Ireland that seems to be enforced to the absolute limit, is planning.
Driving? No.
Crime generally? Not today.
Littering? No thank you.
Want to insulate your house? Better be ready to go to jail. (I know this was resolved ultimately)
Want to store bikes in your front garden? Get wrecked.
The docks could with ambition and vision be Dublins answer to the Manhattan Skyline. Judging by the images above it looks kinda good, yet planning permission for that abomination the Exo beside the Point is in my opinion the ugliest modern building in the city. It’s a glass block. That got permission though.
The docks should be a thriving metropolis, people living, working and entertaining themselves there. Instead after the weekend when offices close it’s deserted. Why not have Casinos and Museums and other attractions down there ?
I know Owen Keegan was ridiculed for his kayaking idea down there but at least it was thinking outside the box and being imaginative. These skills are sadly lacking in this city.
Dublin has the potential to be a world class city but right now it’s so far removed from being one.
Meanwhile Cork’s has more or less commenced construction on an 85 meter residential tower.
Dublin appears to want to protect the non-skyline at all costs – even if it means a permanent housing crisis and economic decline it seems.
Slightly PR puff piece, but it’s a bit of fresh air compared to the usual: “dangerously high 6 story building blocked due to fear of people getting dizzy.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/commercial/arid-41687046.html
>the commission found that the wholesale demolition of the existing building would be both premature and unjustified and would set an unwelcome precedent for the demolition on similar sites in Dublin
God forbid we should have nice new buildings paid for by private money.
It’s well known in development circles in Dublin, that RGRE is disproportionately singled out and the governments wiping boy as a result of the property crash.
This being rejected is no surprise. It’s a shame because it’s one of, maybe the last prime dockland sites yet to be developed.
Id expect it to be appealed on the grounds that the building directly across the liffey is taller than what RGRE is proposing.
DCC’s logic is literally:
“We will approve the construction of tall buildings as soon as there are other tall buildings around the area so they don’t stand out”.
Without a hint of irony.
Imagine being this shit at your job.
Sure why would you build stuff at all.
we need maoist punitive treatment for dublin planning czars
Who are these civil servants making these decisions in our name? It’s completely contrary to the will of the people. Who charged them with that responsibility?
Honestly, fuck this piddly country. Scared to build tall buildings, scared to build a metro, scared to build any sort of infrastructure. The Council treat Dublin as if it is a village.